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Is there a difference between "Impeached" and "Removed from office through impeachment"?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:03 pm
I feel it's an important distinction.
The Democrats can vote to "impeach" Trump, presumably starting in the House.
Scenario A: If the Democrats fail to get a majority of votes, has Trump still been "impeached"?
Scenario B: If the Democrats get a majority of votes in the House, but not the needed 2/3rds in the Senate, has Trump still been "impeached"?
The Democrats can vote to "impeach" Trump, presumably starting in the House.
Scenario A: If the Democrats fail to get a majority of votes, has Trump still been "impeached"?
Scenario B: If the Democrats get a majority of votes in the House, but not the needed 2/3rds in the Senate, has Trump still been "impeached"?
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:04 pm to SirWinston
House impeaches. Senate convicts and removes from office.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:05 pm to Brosef Stalin
So if the House Dems try to impeach but fail, has Trump been "impeached"?
Presumably if they vote to impeach and it passes the House the media and the leftist history cretins will say he has been "impeached".
Presumably if they vote to impeach and it passes the House the media and the leftist history cretins will say he has been "impeached".
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:05 pm to SirWinston
I guess you'll be dead either way so why do you care?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:06 pm to SirWinston
Yes. Bill Clinton was impeached. He was not removed from office.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:06 pm to SirWinston
Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were impeached. The house voted to bring them to trial. The Senate then votes this convict. Do we still take Civics?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:07 pm to SirWinston
If the House votes to impeach, then the president is impeached. Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were both impeached. Both times by a Republican House and for weak reasons too.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:07 pm to SirWinston
If impeachment passes the house...he IS impeached.
He is not removed unless and until the Senate votes to convict.
Impeach would be like "indicted".....you have been indicted. If not CONVICTED, you do not go to prison (for example)
He is not removed unless and until the Senate votes to convict.
Impeach would be like "indicted".....you have been indicted. If not CONVICTED, you do not go to prison (for example)
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:07 pm to SirWinston
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Scenario B: If the Democrats get a majority of votes in the House, but not the needed 2/3rds in the Senate, has Trump still been "impeached"?
Yes. Impeachment is a house thing. Bill Clinton was impeached but never removed from office, but he was still impeached.
Impeach means to "bring charges." It's an indictment. The trial happens in the Senate.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:07 pm to SirWinston
A couple of points - to be impeached the house votes and gets the votes to impeach him.
Then it goes to trial in the senate.
If the senate acts then president is removed from office.
Then it goes to trial in the senate.
If the senate acts then president is removed from office.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:08 pm to The Boat
So impeachment is nothing more than a political victory. We know he won’t be removed.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:09 pm to SirWinston
Yes they can say they impeached Trump. They’ll cover themselves is jizz from the celebration of bringing Trump an impeachment trial. They’ll consider it a victory even without a senate conviction. And they would overplay their hand like usual and get demolished in 2020 when Trump’s support grows.
Bill Clinton became immensely popular once he was impeached.
Bill Clinton became immensely popular once he was impeached.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:10 pm to BobBoucher
It is a political diversion because the left can not believe he won the election.
Remember that Oboma and Hillary said the results from 2016 election night would be valid.
Remember that Oboma and Hillary said the results from 2016 election night would be valid.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:19 pm to SirWinston
yes.
its the same as the difference between indictment and conviction (or, failure to convict - as was the case both with Johnson and Clinton)
its the same as the difference between indictment and conviction (or, failure to convict - as was the case both with Johnson and Clinton)
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:41 pm to SirWinston
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cenario A: If the Democrats fail to get a majority of votes, has Trump still been "impeached"?
No, otherwise Trump has been impeached multiple times, because there are morons hanging out in the bowels of the democrat chamber of the house.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:51 pm to SirWinston
Impeachment is like indictment. The house does this. The senate then has a trial, which requires 2/3 vote to remove from office.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:04 pm to SirWinston
the dims are not even attempting an impeachment. Dims like talking about impeachment. They know full well impeaching or attempting to impeach Trump would massively get out the vote for him. Dims are stupid, but they aren't that stupid.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:11 pm to airfernando
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Dims are stupid, but they aren't that stupid.
Quite a few of them are that blinded by the bubbles of their respective districts. It's really not clear if there would be enough sensible Dems to block impeachment if they did take the House. It would presumably only take a handful but by and large they really have lost their damn minds.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:18 pm to The Boat
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Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were impeached. The house voted to bring them to trial. The Senate then votes this convict. Do we still take Civics?
You know. You would think it would be pretty common knowledge. But so many people that I debated politics with that “knew” their shite believed that the only impeached President was Nixon and that Clinton wasn’t impeached because he wasn’t removed from office.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:20 pm to SirWinston
And even if impeached, but not convicted Trump can run for re-election in 2020 and probably get a boost in voter turnout as payback to the dems for the impeachment dog and pony show.
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