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re: Is the Climate Scam almost over?

Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
1178 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:28 pm to
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So you are a crowd chaser. In England they arrest you for posting anything not approved by gov There are always sheep being lead to slaughter and that's you You can track money from USAID and other entities paying for this. Keep being dumb


With all due respect Mr. Guy, none of this is true.
Posted by Yokelhoma
Member since Jul 2021
276 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:58 pm to
Ah yes, climate scientists across the world agree that the Earth is warming and that we should collectively do something about it, but no, conservative rednecks in the US (primarily in the Southeast) actually know what’s really going on.

It’s a giant conspiracy to somehow make a lot of money (or power, or whatever) and all the scientists are somehow in on it. Why listen to climate scientists, who are obviously compromised, when you can listen to the oil and gas industry and Republicans, who clearly have no profit incentive at hand in denying climate change? I mean, have you seen that rich people are still flying jets? What other proof do you need?









You have to be a complete fricking retard to believe the above.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
31440 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:17 pm to
Oh we all know there are many brainwashed followers of the climate crap. Plenty in this thread alone.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32367 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:19 pm to
It's up to the United States, the most prosperous nation, to provide the moral leadership to quell the scourge of unbridled CO2 emissions and climate change. Instead Trump removes temperature monitoring devices.
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 11:26 pm
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
1178 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:09 am to
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Ah yes, climate scientists across the world agree that the Earth is warming and that we should collectively do something about it, but no, conservative rednecks in the US (primarily in the Southeast) actually know what’s really going on. It’s a giant conspiracy to somehow make a lot of money (or power, or whatever) and all the scientists are somehow in on it. Why listen to climate scientists, who are obviously compromised, when you can listen to the oil and gas industry and Republicans, who clearly have no profit incentive at hand in denying climate change? I mean, have you seen that rich people are still flying jets? What other proof do you need? You have to be a complete fricking retard to believe the above.



Perfectly stated
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17816 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:27 am to
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A fraction of Republicans are the only people on the planet that deny climate change. But yea, yall are right and everyone else is wrong.


Then why are the biggest alarmists also the largest polluters?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6401 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:36 am to
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t's up to the United States, the most prosperous nation, to provide the moral leadership to quell the scourge of unbridled CO2 emissions and climate change. Instead Trump removes temperature monitoring devices

What would be the best level of CO2 for our atmosphere? I have never seen anyone say that.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17816 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:37 am to
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Why listen to climate scientists, who are obviously compromised, when you can listen to the oil and gas industry and Republicans, who clearly have no profit incentive at hand in denying climate change?


Oh shove your sarcasm.

So we should listen to climate alarmists who have a profit incentive? At least the O&G people aren't massive hypocrites. Al Gore took your money you handed him for a bullshite movie with completely wrong predictions, along with his other hysteria work, and bought luxury homes with heated swimming pools, luxury SUVs, and a jet. He took your money and laughed all the way to the bank. Yet you people still advocate throwing money at it, accepting higher taxes, fees, cost of goods, and POS expensive vehicles that cost too much and break down well more often than in the past. All to feed your insatiable appetite for hysteria that is peddled by the people that profit from it.

It's hilarious how every single rich climate alarmist that actually does what they preach against is given a golden ticket pass by the lemmings.

This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 9:38 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6401 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:38 am to
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Ah yes, climate scientists across the world agree that the Earth is warming and that we should collectively do something about it, but no, conservative rednecks in the US (primarily in the Southeast) actually know what’s really going on.

You do realize that there is a very large voice of dissent from climate scientists. The matter is not as settled as you claim.

But I will ask you the same question.

What is the perfect level of CO2 in our atmosphere? Would you like to decrease it from current levels and if so, to what level?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9514 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:43 am to
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Ah yes, climate scientists across the world agree that the Earth is warming and that we should collectively do something about it


I believe the data and the warnings that within the next 100 years we will experience both negative and positive effects of climate change. It will not be a global apocalypse but in some parts of the planet it could be pretty life altering for the inhabitants.. We need to be preparing for the negative impacts on things like food production, human and animal migration, coastal flooding etc.. Where I disagree is this notion we can do much to stop it. There is no replacement for fossil fuels now or on the horizon. We arent going to windmill and electric car or innovate our way out this issue any time soon. We can only try to mitigate the effects.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20987 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:46 am to
From personal experience with 2 USAID projects I did in Algeria I can tell you the biggest benefits from the graft went to congressional representatives.

US Senators don’t come cheap.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6401 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:49 am to
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We need to be preparing for the negative impacts on things like food production, human and animal migration, coastal flooding etc..

1) Greater CO2 in the atmosphere promotes plant growth and increases yields. Also the warming trend gives a longer growing season. Food will not even be close to an issue. It will actually become more available.
2) With greater food availability, animals will not need to migrate so far to find it. Humans migrate due to hardships such as war or famine. Greater growing potential takes natural famines off the table. We would only have to worry about war or man-made famine.
3) Coastal flooding - water has risen how much? It is so little as to be barely noticeable.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17816 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:03 am to
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We need to be preparing for the negative impacts on things like food production,


You want to coherently articulate how any increase in CO2 is harmful to food producing plants?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9514 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:35 am to
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You want to coherently articulate how any increase in CO2 is harmful to food producing plants?


Research has shown that certain staple crops grown in open fields with elevated carbon dioxide levels had up to 17 percent lower levels of protein, iron and zinc compared to those grown amid less CO2. More research needs to be done on that possible problem. But increased CO2 levels arent the only issue or even the main concern imo. Changing weather patterns maybe be beneficial to some areas and devastating to others.There are a lot of factors here, but soil quality and availability are not universal. Just because land becomes the right climate in areas that were previously barren does not mean the soil will be fertile or capable of meeting all of local area food production needs. Planting and harvesting dates might need to be adjusted. Practical steps can be taken to mitigate the negative effects as much as possible while food producers make adjustments.

Climates change .whether through man made influence or not and we should prepare for them. If we could've anticipated the Little Ice Age moving away from wheat-dependent systems toward hardier, colder-weather crops such as rye, oats, barley, and eventually the potato, which thrives in cool, wet environments might have saved a lot of lives.

Like I said it wont be the apocalypse. Human civilization isnt going to collapse but some adjustments may be needed to be made. Its unfortunate this has become so politicized.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 10:45 am
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9514 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:42 am to
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Food will not even be close to an issue. It will actually become more available.


That is definitely a possible over all benefit in during this time but there will be an adjustment period where some regions will benefit and others will fail and we should be ready.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6401 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:43 am to
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Research has shown that certain staple crops grown in open fields with elevated carbon dioxide levels had up to 17 percent lower levels of protein, iron and zinc compared to those grown amid less CO2.

I will take that tradeoff. With optimum levels for plant growth between 1500 and 2000 ppm, and danger levels at 200 ppm, sitting at 420 ppm now is dangerously low.

Rest of your post is very sensible
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 10:44 am
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9514 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:52 am to
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I will take that tradeoff.


The main theory behind the link is that carbon dioxide makes plants grow faster and create fewer micro-nutrients It wont be problem for developed countries. Most of these potential impacts for this specifically would be for poorer countries where large percentages of the populations are already teetering on the edge of various vitamin deficiencies. Perhaps growth in other areas will make up for it... IDK.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14832 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:01 am to
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You might want to ask yourself why the current administration is removing monitoring devices


Are they removing beachfront homes? Preventing building Skyscrapers along the Florida Coastline? Have Insurance Companies refused coverage on those buildings and homes.

Has Martha's Vineyard been deserted?

Those are the accurate monitoring devices.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
541 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:16 am to
How about the worst polluters step up. You know why they wont ? It's because it gives them a competitive advantage. When or if they become economic equals, they will keep the hammer down on coal and oil while we become poorer.

The most cost-effective way to deal with climate change is to simply adapt.
Posted by LightHeat
Member since Oct 2020
575 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:50 am to
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Coastlines have varied by hundreds, even thousands of miles around the world. The idea that oceans rising by inches was some kind of planet

History is littered with coastal cities that are no longer there.


Global average sea levels have been rising since the last ice age. The rate has slowed more recently (in the last few thousand years). New Orleans might be in trouble in a couple of decades, but that's because the land is moving too, and New Orleans is going in the wrong direction.
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