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Is Medicaid 'welfare'?

Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:21 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:21 am
Today's Shreveport Times Editorial says it is not.

The issue is the current administration floating the idea of allowing states to attach 'work' as a requirement for Medicaid.

The Times says:

"Medicaid is not welfare. It is health insurance. People use it to get medication and care, not to pay rent or buy televisions."

Thoughts?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:25 am to
quote:

"Medicaid is not welfare. It is health insurance. People use it to get medication and care, not to pay rent or buy televisions."


Healthcare is a commodity just like a tv, so yes, it has welfare attached to it.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67887 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:25 am to
in order to be insurance, it seems to me that a minimum requirement is that one must pay into the pool in order to receive payments from the pool
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Medicaid is welfare. It is subsidized health insurance. People use it to get medication and care whose costs are paid for by the tax revenue generated by others like direct welfare payments are tax revenues used to subsidize rent or buy televisions.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10297 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:27 am to
Well, its not free, the hard working American taxpayers are forced to subsidize the coverage for others while incurring huge increases in their own premiums and having their co-payments and deductibles doubled. So if Medicaid recipients can contribute to the cost of their coverage it is worth consideration. However, it would probably be a bureaucratic nightmare to monitor the income and ability to contribute of a population which has inconsistent income and often little or none.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22375 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:28 am to
Yes.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42586 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:29 am to
Is water wet??

of course it is.
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:32 am to
Government assistance by any name is still government assistance.

Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48346 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:34 am to
You know if FedGov decides to change the names of welfare by calling none of it welfare then they'll never have to answer complaints about FedGov spending too much on welfare.

Pretty smooth dodge!

Posted by BoomBoomBoom
Member since Oct 2013
939 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:49 am to
Insurance companies pool groups with similar risk factors to form rating classes and determine the premium for their products. When a group/rating class consists of people that don't pay any premium or get a subsidy to pay the premium and the only common risk factor is they're poor, that's welfare.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63495 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Healthcare is a commodity just like a tv,


Thankfully, most people would not agree.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112467 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:59 am to
If it's not a commodity what is it? A hobby?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:00 am to
It’s a right Zach. Obviously
Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:11 am to
it is moral welfare in intent but abused in practice. some really need it and deserve it. some suck off of it because they can. welcome to america!
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48911 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:13 am to
I don’t like the term “welfare” lets call it for what it is, a fricking handout
This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 11:14 am
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48911 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:14 am to
quote:

deserve it


How does anyone “deserve” it?

Deserve

quote:

do something or have or show qualities worthy of (reward or punishment).


This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 11:16 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112467 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:21 am to
quote:

How does anyone “deserve” it?


I'm gonna go with 'By existing' for $500, Alex.
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:24 am to
yes
Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:33 am to
duh. there are plenty of workers who worked hard all their life and have nothing to show for it due to misfortune not due to their fault. hope that does not happen to you. if it does u gonna be glad it is available.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6935 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:35 am to
A lot of very sick children can look forward to working on the factory floor.
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