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Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:53 am to MMauler
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Oh sure, he makes up lots of shite. For example:
What a weird response. Biden was a complete liar and the worst president ever in my opinion.
I'm just pointing out what I thought was obvious. President Trump has made an incredible living off of misdirection. He brings that to the White House and has used it to his/our benefit.
To me, it hurts the cause to pretend the President doesn't frequently exaggerate and sometimes outright lie. To pretend this is to ignore what I think is an obvious reality.
Clearly, many on the Board disagree with me. That's OK. That's why it's a DISCUSSION Board and not a CIRCLE JERK Board.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:54 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Are you kidding?
Do you know what a "lie" is? It is not when you are wrong. Although it is wrong to lie.
If you ask me who the greatest hitter in Major league history was and I say Ted Williams, that is not a lie. That is an opinion.
Also if I make a prediction and the prediction is wrong that is not a lie. I was wrong.
A lie is when you know the absolute truth about something, and you purposely say something else. Typically it is done to sway someone or impress upon them something that is to your advantage.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:55 am to SallysHuman
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Everybody lies.
Ta da! Now we're getting somewhere.
So it is NOT TDS to acknowledge that President Trump is a person and, therefore, occasionally lies.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:56 am to IvoryBillMatt
I don't understand. 
Trump makes things up? That doesn't even make sense. If Trump says it, it makes it true, even retroactively. He's like a wife. America's man-wife-if he says it-or even thinks it-it's by definition-true. How did you not know that? That's just weird that you didn't know that.
Don't ask any more commie questions.
Trump makes things up? That doesn't even make sense. If Trump says it, it makes it true, even retroactively. He's like a wife. America's man-wife-if he says it-or even thinks it-it's by definition-true. How did you not know that? That's just weird that you didn't know that. Don't ask any more commie questions.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:57 am to IvoryBillMatt
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So it is NOT TDS to acknowledge that President Trump is a person and, therefore, occasionally lies.
It’s TDS to start a thread about it and fail to include even a single shining example in the OP.
Who’s your next “everybody lies” thread going to be about?
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:01 am to IvoryBillMatt
You assert..
Then immediately say..
Which is it? Is it good or bad?
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He brings that to the White House and has used it to his/our benefit.
Then immediately say..
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To me, it hurts the cause to pretend the President doesn't frequently exaggerate and sometimes outright lie.
Which is it? Is it good or bad?
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:02 am to LCA131
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A lie is when you know the absolute truth about something, and you purposely say something else. Typically it is done to sway someone or impress upon them something that is to your advantage.
Exactly. President Trump knew there was no Greenland deal, but he said there was one to save face.
President Trump knew that the Iranians hadn't agreed to turn over the uranium, but he lied to make it appear that things were going well.
Again the really fun vehicle for the President to make things up are invented conversations with unidentified people.
Trump: "A former president called me to say he wished he had bombed Iran."
Reporter: "Which one?"
Trump: "I can't say."
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 9:08 am
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:02 am to SallysHuman
Trump has never lied.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:04 am to roadGator
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Trump has never lied.
Why are you being a martyred diva over this? What’s the point?
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:04 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Trump: "A former president called me to say he wished he had bored Iran."
You put this in quotation marks, and he did not say bored Iran.
You are a liar.
For the record, and referring to the op, it is not TDS simply on the basis of saying Trump tells lies.
However, you definitely have TDS.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:06 am to IvoryBillMatt
Who doesn't? You make things up plenty.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:06 am to SallysHuman
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Which is it? Is it good or bad?
Misdirection by the President is good if it helps achieve goals. "I'm going to bomb the shite out of Oman if they get out of line."
The belief that President Trump doesn't lie is psychotic as you pointed out: EVERYONE lies. Of course, Biden was a bigger AND DANGEROUS liar.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:09 am to IvoryBillMatt
It's true if you want to believe it's true
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:10 am to SallysHuman
That’s a tad melodramatic.
Are you female?
Are you female?
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:11 am to IvoryBillMatt
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The belief that President Trump doesn't lie is psychotic as you pointed out: EVERYONE lies.
Why did you start this doomed thread?
You say lying and misdirection is good… so who cares? Welcome back and all, but your thread creation privileges should remain suspended.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:11 am to JellyRoll
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Who doesn't? You make things up plenty.
Thank you!!! So, it's NOT TDS to acknowledge Trump is human!!!!
I did have a typo about "bored" rather than "bombed." Other than that, what have I made up?
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:13 am to IvoryBillMatt
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So, it's NOT TDS to acknowledge Trump is human!!!!
No wonder this abortion of a thread got anchored.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:15 am to SallysHuman
Why did you start this doomed thread?
You say lying and misdirection is good… so who cares? Welcome back and all, but your thread creation privileges should remain suspended.
The question was whether or not one can acknowledge that the President occasionally lies and not be accused of having TDS. Apparently the answer is "yes."
I apologize if you think the question was out of line.
You say lying and misdirection is good… so who cares? Welcome back and all, but your thread creation privileges should remain suspended.
The question was whether or not one can acknowledge that the President occasionally lies and not be accused of having TDS. Apparently the answer is "yes."
I apologize if you think the question was out of line.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:17 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Other than that, what have I made up?
You have made numerous statements in this thread claiming to know what someone else knew or didn't know. There is absolutely no way you can say that with certainty. You have no idea what Trump knows or doesn't know, believes or doesn't believe.
For you to state it as fact, is a lie
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