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re: Is it safe to say that republicans lost the house because of health care?
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:04 am to Northwestern tiger
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:04 am to Northwestern tiger
I’m going with the fact that it was a midterm election.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:06 am to Northwestern tiger
About half of the House seats that flipped were in the wealthiest 16% of districts.
GOP needs to start focusing on middle and working class issues. The Senate Judiciary Committee also needs to hold hearings on systematic police and prosecutorial misconduct in places like Boston, NYC, Chicago, San Fran, etc. That would show black voters that the GOP takes their concerns about the justice system seriously while embarrassing progs. Get the black vote to 20-25% Republican and the Dims are toast.
GOP needs to start focusing on middle and working class issues. The Senate Judiciary Committee also needs to hold hearings on systematic police and prosecutorial misconduct in places like Boston, NYC, Chicago, San Fran, etc. That would show black voters that the GOP takes their concerns about the justice system seriously while embarrassing progs. Get the black vote to 20-25% Republican and the Dims are toast.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:09 am to Northwestern tiger
quote:
Is it safe to say that republicans lost the house because of health care?
No. They lost the house because a) every incumbent loses house seats their first mid term. Clinton lost 52, Barack holds the record for losing 63 and B) because 45 house gop members retired. Most of them swamp creatures and then 3) yes, voter fraud played a factor. When you are still counting ballots 20 days post election, you are trying to fix the results.
Healthcare wasn’t even a talking point until maybe 1 week before Election Day. Libs figures out they needed something else to run on other than orange man bad, so they reached in their bag of ready made statements and pushed out the old reliable (throw granny from the cliff). But that’s not why the gop lost the house. The above I posted is the reason. If healthcare was an issue they would have lost he senate too. Trump did well this midterms. Clinton lost 6 senate seats his midterm and your boy Obama almost had the record by losing 8. Trump gained what 3 or 4? Pretty good for a midterm
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:11 am to BugAC
This is rich coming from the guy who ban bet me the Dems wouldn’t take the house.
I bumped the thread for you.
I bumped the thread for you.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:14 am to SquatchDawg
I totally agree with you. Especially this:
quote:
They didn’t do shite to back up any of the issues that won them their majority and that DJT ran on and won decisively...especially in controlling the growth of govt.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:20 am to mwade91383
quote:
This is rich coming from the guy who ban bet me the Dems wouldn’t take the house
Jesus you fricking ninny. I didn’t remember our ban bet because I’m not obsessed with you, the way you are me and I don’t always see every post response to me because I have a life (family/work) outside of the internet, you troll. But, that being said, thank you for bumping the thread because I did not recall our bet. I shall banish myself from the board until 1/1/19.
PS, go outside every now and then, it will do you some good.
ETA: I still don’t understand why you think I’m a gump fan.
This post was edited on 11/22/18 at 9:27 am
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:22 am to Northwestern tiger
* Always happens to the party not holding the WH in midterms
* Women's sufferage. Dems are 100% emotion and there you go.
* Trump's tweets. Lookit the man has prolonged the life of America. In the long run no one can save it. But he is Trump. And I'm all for letting Trump be Trump but at times he needs supervision when he get's in those frequent knee jerk response moods.
* Immigration of votes by the left. Do you think for a minute the PTB's @ he dem party HQ give a flying Fark for Columbian drug dealers, whores and truly destitute people getting to America. Where they fix flats, deal drugs, sell pussy, rob news stands, sell cars, work @ Waffle Houses in Atlanta, plus universally get on welfare. And yes hustle tables in NY honkie houses (and likely again sell pussy on the side) and run for the US congress and win in that enlightened environment of freaks. No they only want votes.
* Hard work by the Socialists and Communists. They truly want your middle class job. Your home. Your golf membership. Your F-150, your wife, your life. And the numb nuts think they can get it with communism.
Other things but I'll leave it right there.
* Women's sufferage. Dems are 100% emotion and there you go.
* Trump's tweets. Lookit the man has prolonged the life of America. In the long run no one can save it. But he is Trump. And I'm all for letting Trump be Trump but at times he needs supervision when he get's in those frequent knee jerk response moods.
* Immigration of votes by the left. Do you think for a minute the PTB's @ he dem party HQ give a flying Fark for Columbian drug dealers, whores and truly destitute people getting to America. Where they fix flats, deal drugs, sell pussy, rob news stands, sell cars, work @ Waffle Houses in Atlanta, plus universally get on welfare. And yes hustle tables in NY honkie houses (and likely again sell pussy on the side) and run for the US congress and win in that enlightened environment of freaks. No they only want votes.
* Hard work by the Socialists and Communists. They truly want your middle class job. Your home. Your golf membership. Your F-150, your wife, your life. And the numb nuts think they can get it with communism.
Other things but I'll leave it right there.
This post was edited on 11/22/18 at 9:30 am
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:22 am to Northwestern tiger
They lost because they had a record number of incumbents choose not to run. Incumbents have a big advantage on re-election.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:26 am to Northwestern tiger
quote:dems don't control Congress.
with the democrats controlling Congress.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:30 am to Zach
quote:
They lost because they had a record number of incumbents choose not to run. Incumbents have a big advantage on re-election.
Nearly 40 incumbent Republicans retired, mostly termed Committee Chairmen. We can all thank Paul Ryan for that.
Plus a healthy dose of weak kneed suburban Millennials, who still believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:35 am to jimdog
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Hard work by the Socialists and Communists. They truly want your middle class job. Your home. Your golf membership. Your F-150, your wife, your life. And the numb nuts think they can get it with communism.
your wife? Lol.
Socialists covet your wife - so republicans lost?
Yeah, right.
This post was edited on 11/22/18 at 9:37 am
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:47 am to Northwestern tiger
They did not lose the House because of healthcare.
However, the conservatives held House, Senate and Presidency for the last two years and the only thing accomplished was the initiative by PDJT himself to overturn the individual mandate.
Again, healthcare did not lose them the midterms because infighting within the DNC is even worse than the GOPe... but it has been frustrating and infuriating at very least, to watch the (R)s control Presidency and Congress and still accomplish nothing with healthcare.
These are supposed to be our great representatives and they can't find the time and energy, with all their infinite wisdom and intelligence, to come together and come up with a solid proposal? I fervently and adamantly disagree with the Dim/Socialist ideas of universal healthcare, but it's their plan and they're basically all together on it- while our conservative representatives are sitting on their hands with regard to healthcare reform.
However, the conservatives held House, Senate and Presidency for the last two years and the only thing accomplished was the initiative by PDJT himself to overturn the individual mandate.
Again, healthcare did not lose them the midterms because infighting within the DNC is even worse than the GOPe... but it has been frustrating and infuriating at very least, to watch the (R)s control Presidency and Congress and still accomplish nothing with healthcare.
These are supposed to be our great representatives and they can't find the time and energy, with all their infinite wisdom and intelligence, to come together and come up with a solid proposal? I fervently and adamantly disagree with the Dim/Socialist ideas of universal healthcare, but it's their plan and they're basically all together on it- while our conservative representatives are sitting on their hands with regard to healthcare reform.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:49 am to mindbreaker
quote:
Muh fake votes
This is correct but it's more likely illegal votes
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:52 am to mindbreaker
Another factor: DJT rode a wave of anti-establishment discontent in 2016. In 2018, the GOP had been in full control for two years so they couldn't be the outsider party.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:52 am to Northwestern tiger
It is safer to say that, Republicans lost the house because Americans like a divided government.
In the last 21 Midterm Elections the Party that held the Presidency lost an Average of 30 House Seats.
Edit: Now it is the last 22 Midterm elections.
In the last 21 Midterm Elections the Party that held the Presidency lost an Average of 30 House Seats.
Edit: Now it is the last 22 Midterm elections.
This post was edited on 11/22/18 at 9:53 am
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:52 am to Bestbank Tiger
And because of racidm and Trump being a nut job.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:54 am to Northwestern tiger
Failing to repeal Obamacare was a major mistake. Cat really blame the house though
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:56 am to TigerAxeOK
quote:
These are supposed to be our great representatives and they can't find the time and energy, with all their infinite wisdom and intelligence, to come together and come up with a solid proposal? I fervently and adamantly disagree with the Dim/Socialist ideas of universal healthcare, but it's their plan and they're basically all together on it- while our conservative representatives are sitting on their hands with regard to healthcare reform.
the problems the republicans faced have to do with the healthcare you get from a strictly capitalists system.
You run into Sarah Palin's dread death panels.
The old system prior to Obama was designed to maximize profit.
Not enough MDs, M.D. charge as much as you like.
Buy a drug company with leverage. Quadruple the retail cost.
Oppose Medicare doing group buys.
People see alternatives that for many are better.
Many republicans just ran on covering pre existing. That's not insurance, that is a community sacrifice. Confused, the gop did nothing much.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:57 am to CelticDog
ENGLISH MOTHER frickER.
LEARN IT.
LEARN IT.
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