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re: Is it OK to form your own opinion on issues, or should you stick to the party line?

Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:54 am to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
35521 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:54 am to
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What does your tribe think that you, in general, disagree with?


Nobody talks like this.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
53842 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:29 am to
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Doubled down on what? Not wanting grown men walking into the bathroom with our wives and daughters?


He added that he had told other Republicans, “‘Don’t bring that subject up, because there’s no election right now. But about a week before the election, bring it up, because you can’t lose.’”

LINK

You got played.

Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:27 am to
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Is it OK to form your own opinion on issues, or should you stick to the party line?


Thomas Massie says "hi!"
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7234 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:35 am to
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Is it OK to form your own opinion on issues, or should you stick to the party line?


The fact that you asked this shows you're an idiot or a 6 year old child


I'm just a tad older than 6. So I guess by your logic, I'm an idiot.

If you misconstrued my question as a request for advice, it was just a misunderstanding.

You seem like a very smart person, but maybe even you can learn something from other people's answers.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7234 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:40 am to
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There are three major parties:

MAGA
GOP(establishment)
Dems

I hope GOP(e) is critically-endangered.



Perhaps there's even more than 3 tribes?

I'm guessing your MAGA.

But what if MAGA does something that you think isn't actually Making America Great Again? Do you voice your disagreement?
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5983 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:44 am to
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There is no tribe


Joe Rogan interviewed a mind control expert a few weeks ago. They discussed an old study from the 1960s where people are given multiple choice answers to which line is the longest.
Clearly, option C is the longest line.

Everyone goes in a circle and begins answering option A is the longest line. Then it gets to you. C is very clearly the correct answer. You can see it with your own eyes.

The scientist says that 100% of the time people will pick the incorrect answer because all the people before picked the incorrect answer. 100% of the time.
He even commented, “I know people listening to this podcast will say, ‘not me. I would select C.’ “ He claimed you would not, guaranteed. You will answer incorrectly, just like everyone else.
That’s the power of the tribe.
You go with the tribe instead of believing your own eyes.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 6:50 am
Posted by rileytiger
Surfing The Gulf of America
Member since Feb 2007
3151 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:44 am to
Form your own opinion and understand not everything you wish for is not going to happen over night.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149392 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 7:58 am to
How did I get played again?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
43845 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:04 am to
Jesus Christ—who is King of kings—will judge all people for their words, thoughts, and actions, so it is important for everyone to do what is right according to Him. That may mean voting against the party you belong to, or disagreeing with your party or party leaders.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
57733 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:04 am to
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Is it OK to form your own opinion on issues, or should you stick to the party line?


By all means, speak up.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
4662 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:13 am to
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Perhaps there's even more than 3 tribes?

I'm guessing your MAGA.

But what if MAGA does something that you think isn't actually Making America Great Again? Do you voice your disagreement?


Yes, I am MAGA. MAGA is bigger than just one person. Trump is obviously incredibly important and put the wheels in motion, but the movement is bigger than one person.

As to HOW to make America great again, reasonable minds disagree about the details. While I don't vary from the philosophy of putting the American people first, I change my mind about issues in accordance with new information.

I don't consider MAGA a tribe, mainly because, unlike Democrats (for instance) diversity of opinion is tolerated. Trump speaks highly of Operation Warp Speed. Most MAGA supporters are skeptical of Covid "vaccines."

I don't have any hesitancy in criticizing the particulars of any actions or statements from Trump. On this Board, I don't care about proving anything. I'm mostly here to learn. I frequently clash with other MAGA people here over specific policies and Trump's tendency to make things up...but I also frequently learn something from those clashes, and, occasionally change my mind.

I think Democrats are much less tolerant of diversity of opinion within the ranks than are MAGA. Do you disagree with that?

Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
57733 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:16 am to
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But what if MAGA does something that you think isn't actually Making America Great Again?


Name one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:17 am to
No one gives a frick about issues here. Its "what Trump says."
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:19 am to
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But what if MAGA does something that you think isn't actually Making America Great Again? Do you voice your disagreement?


You dont even have to disagree with them for tCult to lash out at you.

They've been conditioned to protect Trump at all cost. His opinion is their opinion.

90% of these bitches hated tariffs until 2016, now its their favorite thing.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
39390 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:19 am to
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Should Americans consider different points of view on issues, or listen to their tribe to decide?

You should decide for yourself but listen to other openly.

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What to do if you disagree? Keep quiet for the "whole good"?

Listen and when it's your turn speak your opinion.

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Is there anything important enough to stick your neck out about, or is it brave enough to go along?

Plenty of things...

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What does your tribe think that you, in general, disagree with?

As a libertarian my tribe often dismissed the societal gain of centralized planning especially in industries where the consumer never gets a fair deal.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
4662 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:29 am to
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No one gives a frick about issues here. Its "what Trump says."


I can only speak for myself as MAGA and a Trump supporter. I no longer attach much importance to what Trump says. I watch what he does.

Overall, I am pleased with his actions in his second term. But, for instance, I don't think his continued joking about making Canada the 51st state is funny or productive.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:32 am to
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I can only speak for myself as MAGA and a Trump supporter. I no longer attach much importance to what Trump says. I watch what he does.


Trump voters are fine, its the hardcore cult that is the problem

I totally understand why some voted for the guy. I respect that. What is the issue is the blanket approval he gets from his cult.

Its not the Trump voter, its the Trump worshipper thats the problem
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
4662 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:34 am to
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You dont even have to disagree with them for tCult to lash out at you.



I tend to agree with you on that, but do you think Democrats are any better? I got banned from DailyKos for suggesting that Trump was inartfully calling Liz Cheney a chicken hawk war monger rather than calling for her execution.

I find Democrats MUCH less tolerant of dissent among the ranks.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
4662 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:35 am to
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Its not the Trump voter, its the Trump worshipper thats the problem


I agree with you on that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:37 am to
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, but do you think Democrats are any better?


Not at all.

But think about this. Do you really want to join an ideology that claims "we're no better than the other guy"


The right is supposed to be smarter, less reactionary, but these guys are carbon copies of progressives.
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