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re: Is digital I.D. the precursor to the Mark mentioned in Revelation 13 ?
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:49 am to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:49 am to Mike da Tigah
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If you’re a believer as I am, it’s pretty difficult to ignore and write this off as anything but end times prophecy, and even if you aren’t, it’s looking extremely Orwellian.
I think Christians focusing on end times and trying to predict real world happenings based off Revelation, etc is a mistake. We were NOT instructed to do this.
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:49 am to BamaCoaster
Voter ID is clearly the mark of the beast
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:24 am to Mike da Tigah
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If you’re a believer as I am, it’s pretty difficult to ignore and write this off as anything but end times prophecy,
I hear you, but is there really anything different here from the Social Security #s that you already provide on a W-2 and all manner of other forms??
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:27 am to lake chuck fan
Even the Tower of Babble story is a marker for things to come.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:40 am to Mike da Tigah
Yes. CONTROL is required and inevitable given the socio-psychological and technological dynamics. At some point Religion will have to be ditched in order to avert religious war. Christianity is an absolute either/or proposition, and those who oppose it will have to bring its philosophical basis (Jesus is THE Son if God) to heel. For the cause of ‘love’ of course. The “Angel of Light “ narrative as it were.
We are riding on the ‘Titanic’, as prophesied. God speed us to our glorious destiny. Won’t be cake, as “the fiery trial that shall try (think refine) our Faith” accomplishes its Divine purpose. Such being that our innate flaws requires a ‘Savior’. Good intentions nws.
The Truth is here, just a matter of the rest being fulfilled.
We are riding on the ‘Titanic’, as prophesied. God speed us to our glorious destiny. Won’t be cake, as “the fiery trial that shall try (think refine) our Faith” accomplishes its Divine purpose. Such being that our innate flaws requires a ‘Savior’. Good intentions nws.
The Truth is here, just a matter of the rest being fulfilled.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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A better question is where is 666 on that digital ID?
The best question is "Did you know the Latin title "Vicarius Filii Dei" (Vicar of the Son of God), inscribed on the Poep's tiara, has a numerical value of 666 when its letters are converted to Roman numerals?
Go figger.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:55 am to Mike da Tigah
It is the 'mark'
You will no longer answer to your creator for your choices, you will answer to the men who control the algorithm. Then eventually the BEAST will seize control, and you will answer to the algorithm solely. An algorithm that doesnt share your belief system, nor why you even need to continue as a species in large numbers
The mark part will be the machine requiring your hand (and possibly forehead) be stamped with your digital ID for tracking purposes. But the system will be in place long before the 'marking' is mandated
You will no longer answer to your creator for your choices, you will answer to the men who control the algorithm. Then eventually the BEAST will seize control, and you will answer to the algorithm solely. An algorithm that doesnt share your belief system, nor why you even need to continue as a species in large numbers
The mark part will be the machine requiring your hand (and possibly forehead) be stamped with your digital ID for tracking purposes. But the system will be in place long before the 'marking' is mandated
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:58 am to RobbBobb
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It is the 'mark'
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I pulled up Revelation (I am not really well read on it b/c it's gobleygook that shouldnt' have ever been inserted into the Bible, in my view). And there are some precursor events that are necessary prior to the mark.
When were the 7 seals opened, and when did we see the effects of that?
When was the abyss opened, and then, when did these events occur:
1. Locusts ravaging those without the mark of God
2. The four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates (heads of lions, and out of their mouths came fire, smoke and sulfur)
3. The Angel and the Little Scroll
4. The Beast killing the two witnesses and laying their bodies in Egypt
5. The resurrection of the two witnesses in #4
6. The red dragon
7. The best from the sea
All of those things occur prior to the mark.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:06 am to Mike da Tigah
Good thread subject.
Very possibly the mark and eventual inability the "buy or sell" without it (Digital ID).
The Control Grid is at our doorstep. Literally. And the vast number of sheeple will excitedly and mindlessly comply here in the US.
Very possibly the mark and eventual inability the "buy or sell" without it (Digital ID).
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I see as a pretty dystopian view of both knowing your whereabouts, and perhaps controlling/limiting that through mass information gathering like marking the herd.
The Control Grid is at our doorstep. Literally. And the vast number of sheeple will excitedly and mindlessly comply here in the US.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:14 am to Mike da Tigah
Why did you avoid responding directly? I listed specific things from revelation that are supposed to predate the mark. When did those things happen?
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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Why did you avoid responding directly? I listed specific things from revelation that are supposed to predate the mark. When did those things happen?
Because I never argued that this is the beast system. I asked if people thought it was the precursor to it. You’re the one trying to bring that up to marginalize. I was quite clear.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
You didnt read thru the list did you?
1. Locusts ravaging those without the mark of God
4. The Beast killing the two witnesses and laying their bodies in Egypt
7. The be(a)st from the sea
Seems counter-intuitive doesnt it?
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
The Beast is given 42 months to wage war on the faithful. Hes not requiring the mark at the end of that time. What purpose would that serve? And there is no mark of God. The reference would be about those NOT receiving a mark, and that would logically occur at the beginning of the revelation. And why it was #1 in the list
Revelation is not a chronological order of events. Its a man from 2000 years ago attempting to make sense of a vision he had, and trying to document what he had seen with current technologies he could not comprhend
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All of those things occur prior to the mark.
1. Locusts ravaging those without the mark of God
4. The Beast killing the two witnesses and laying their bodies in Egypt
7. The be(a)st from the sea
Seems counter-intuitive doesnt it?
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
The Beast is given 42 months to wage war on the faithful. Hes not requiring the mark at the end of that time. What purpose would that serve? And there is no mark of God. The reference would be about those NOT receiving a mark, and that would logically occur at the beginning of the revelation. And why it was #1 in the list
Revelation is not a chronological order of events. Its a man from 2000 years ago attempting to make sense of a vision he had, and trying to document what he had seen with current technologies he could not comprhend
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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A better question is where is 666 on that digital ID?
Just as a data point - in binary, 666 is:
1010011010
Which doesn't look nearly as alarming as 666 to the eye.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:30 am to Mike da Tigah
digital ID by itself is not the mark of the beast, but it could someday be the mechanism by which the mark is implemented
so having digital ID isn't "taking the mark"; those who take the mark will knowingly be embracing satan and renounced God
so having digital ID isn't "taking the mark"; those who take the mark will knowingly be embracing satan and renounced God
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:31 am to RobbBobb
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Revelation is not a chronological order of events
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That's the problem with this sort of interpretation. The person trying to fit the square peg into the round hole can ignore whatever text they want while filling in the gaps with whatever societal variable they want.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:43 am to Wade Garrett
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The Mark is referring to emperor Nero as Christians were coming under extreme persecution in the 1st century
666 definitely means that. Old Hebrew letters are also associated to numbers. If you spell out Nero Ceaser it equals 666.
If you spell Nero Ceaser using the Latin spelling it equals 616 which very old Bibles in Latin also have printed as the number instead of 666.
The early Christians could not just go around saying and writing in a book “Nero sucks” so they had to have a code.
It does t mean that the principles and information in Revelation can’t still be applied to our lives even though 666 was talking about Nero.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:44 am to Mike da Tigah
With the rollout of mRNA injections manipulating genes and DNA, I think the mark is going to be a genetic marker as opposed to a tattoo or chip or something.
And if technology advances to the point where it can identify the carrier (or lack) of the mark, and use it as identification, then digital ID itself will have become the mark. I think that's where it's going, because the implementation of the mark will be very deceptive so people don't get suspicious. Remember "tRuSt tHe sCiEnCe¡!1¡!!1!" and Fauci's 'I aM ThE sCiEnCe!!!"? That was a test run. And an astounding percentage of people bit hook, line and sinker.
Just my theory. I think about this stuff a lot. I hope I don't live to see the day when people have to make that choice. But if I'm around when it happens, I've prepared myself accordingly to exist and thrive without trade or travel. I'm setting up as best I can to take care of me and mine.
And if technology advances to the point where it can identify the carrier (or lack) of the mark, and use it as identification, then digital ID itself will have become the mark. I think that's where it's going, because the implementation of the mark will be very deceptive so people don't get suspicious. Remember "tRuSt tHe sCiEnCe¡!1¡!!1!" and Fauci's 'I aM ThE sCiEnCe!!!"? That was a test run. And an astounding percentage of people bit hook, line and sinker.
Just my theory. I think about this stuff a lot. I hope I don't live to see the day when people have to make that choice. But if I'm around when it happens, I've prepared myself accordingly to exist and thrive without trade or travel. I'm setting up as best I can to take care of me and mine.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:48 am to SlowFlowPro
Its a Revelation
Its not a documentary
This is actually what occurs at the end of the revelation, but shows up in the 7th verse of the revelation
So, its a warning to the saints to prepare them for the end. Each person will encounter a different set of issues in that regard. But are being reassured that holding fast will reap a final reward. John was given 7 different messages, meaning that all believers wont witness the same events
Its not a documentary
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Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
This is actually what occurs at the end of the revelation, but shows up in the 7th verse of the revelation
So, its a warning to the saints to prepare them for the end. Each person will encounter a different set of issues in that regard. But are being reassured that holding fast will reap a final reward. John was given 7 different messages, meaning that all believers wont witness the same events
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Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:51 am to Mike da Tigah
Unless its only available as an implant in your body I dont think it meets that lofty bar
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