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re: Iran: That's not what we agreed to.

Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:30 am to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45533 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:30 am to
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I do not know about you guys and girls but I am starting to think that Pakistan was not telling both sides the truth. I think that they told us that Iran agreed to our terms and they told Iran that we agreed to their terms.


This is certainly possible. I’ve seen this happen before in negotiations with 3rd parties. They do this to get the agreement and then worry later about fallout hoping it doesn’t actually queer the deal. Very unethical.


I highly doubt that Pakistan cares about the ethics of the deal.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68217 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:31 am to
I’m not going to criticize Trump for trying to wrap this up. But, this is why he shouldn’t have gotten into it in the first place. He set in motion something that can’t be controlled now.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
9790 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:33 am to
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I highly doubt that Pakistan cares about the ethics of the deal.


No argument from me here. That’s why I think it’s certainly possible.
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1505 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:35 am to
He was warned . Trump was saying he was first President to deal with Iran in 47 years and forgot the reasons why the other didnt

now he has to make a bad deal with a regime he claimed he destroyed

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Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14606 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:00 am to
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the Persian version of the plan notably diverges from the English one on a key sticking point between Washington and Tehran – Iran’s right to enrich uranium.

"We write in Persian. Americans will never know."
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14606 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:01 am to
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That's not true. We have lied a LOT over the past month and a couple of lies told to end this war is something I fully support.

These were good lies IMO.

I mean, you have become a blithering idiot, so....
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19679 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:03 am to
Why does Iran believe they have demands that have to be met?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37455 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:03 am to
It's a potential disaster of a deal for US prestige. He leaves the mullahs and IRGC in power. The IRGC is emboldened and they start exerting influence across the gulf. The Gulf nations are now twisting in the wind from a security standpoint. Their security guarantors don't look like guarantors any longer, they could not stop Iranian missiles and now they effectively give Iran power over the whole Gulf with the payola they will affect.


Trump would be better that he never listened to Netanyahu. It would also be better if he did not try to make a deal in Islamabad. Any deal is a bad deal because it doesn't just affect the Iranians, you have Gulf States reduced to vassal states of Iran with Americans potentially underwriting the security of the deal. Meanwhile. South Korea, Japan and Australia pay more for their oil .

Nigeria could be a big winner in all this though.....and Norway.

I'm thinking Bibi way want to go to the Wall a lot more and spend more time at a synagogue praying that a competent US President is not elected in 2028. Because his arse can't afford what is about to come at him.
This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 11:04 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37455 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:05 am to
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Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
2106 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:05 am to
How is the weather in Tehran?
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19394 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:07 am to
Worse than Somalia?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82262 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:07 am to
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is absolutely pointless to try to make any deals with Iran.


When taqiyya is part of their operating system, why should you have any confidence in their promises?
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10469 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:09 am to
Don't care.

One of the brilliant things Trump did was publish Iran's response when the the Cease Fire was agreed to.

Known liars and the lies they make.

Oh well, let the bombing continue.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:09 am to
American war hero Joe Kent and J6 prisoner Owen Shroyer discuss the last 24 hours

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Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26618 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:11 am to
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you'll have a coalition of countries going after them.


They ghosted this last round.

And isolate their asses from China. I think i saw they get 90% of their oil from Iran (?).
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16332 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:20 am to
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I can tell you the deal changes at each and every point, even through delivery and payment.


Agreed.

They lie and cheat more than the Chinese.
And that says a lot.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11811 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:24 am to
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But technically he's the one who lied and tried to spin it.


False
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:32 am to
Answer : Charlie Kirk
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32830 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:33 am to
What a shite show. Everybody needs to speak English
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23657 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:34 am to
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We were the ones who lied on at least a couple of facets, not Iran (at least in regards to the Strait and the ceasefire extending to Lebanon)


Your lying now.
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