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re: Iran has hypersonic missiles
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:23 pm to td1
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:23 pm to td1
More google-fu. Looks like the technical definition of hypersonic is anything above Mach 5. But it looks like the “hypersonic” missiles everyone brags about are like Mach 9 or so.
I did see an article that a Patriot missile system did shoot down a zircon hypersonic missile.
I did see an article that a Patriot missile system did shoot down a zircon hypersonic missile.
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Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:23 pm to Tesla
Why did they not give them to Ukraine to strike Crimea? Russia is using hypersonics in Ukraine.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:26 pm to Tesla
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Considering the US doesn't have them, I doubt Israel does.
Wrong on both counts.
Got a link, or anything to back that up.
"Officially" the US says it does not.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:28 pm to John Barron
That's a regular ballistic missile. All of which are 'hypersonic'
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:31 pm to John Barron
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Considering the US doesn't have them
We have had them since the 50s or 60s as we achieved Mach 5 back then. The problem with them is they are not very maneuverable as plasma builds up and when you try to change course it falls apart. I'm sure we figured something out by now
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:36 pm to John Barron
The Iron Dome? Failed due the shear amount of missiles?
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:38 pm to LookSquirrel
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"Officially" the US says it does not.
Officially, Israel doesn't have nukes, but they have nukes.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:39 pm to LookSquirrel
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"Officially" the US says it does not.
Thats because they need another half trillion to develop one.
Id love to ask the chiefs a question.....
So in the last 20 years we have spent trillions, trillions on the military, and some piss arse gas station of a country comes up with a super duper fragilistic missile.....and its gonna take you years to develop.
You are either the biggest dumbarses in the world.....or you have been thiefing trillions, which is it?
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:41 pm to jmarto1
Reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend of mine in the CIA. I said I wish we were close to our govt having the capabilities of quantum computing.
He looked at me and said "what makes you think we arent far closer than anyone else?"
He looked at me and said "what makes you think we arent far closer than anyone else?"
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:42 pm to John Barron
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Interesting video. Did Russia give Iran Hypersonic missiles?
1. Hypersonic only allows the missile to travel at supersonic speeds in transit. It has to slow down before it hits its target.
Whether this was a hypersonic missile or not, you can’t tell from this video.
2. Yes they likely have hypersonic missiles. North Korea has hypersonic missiles. ICBMs travel around 15,000 in low earth orbit and then re-enter the atmosphere over target, where they are forced to slow down due to atmospheric friction.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:44 pm to John Barron
Anyone afraid of hypersonic missiles does not understand physics. The faster something goes the slower it can turn or deviate which makes it easier for them to get intercepted. Fast is not always best in this scenario.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:44 pm to John Barron
Don't believe anything the government says but needs government confirmation we have hypersonic missles. Believes Russia tells the truth when they say they have unstoppable hypersonics even though ukranians have shot down these missles with technology that shouldn't be able to stop hypersonics.
Hypersonic missles is sort of a ambiguous term to begin with.
Hypersonic missles is sort of a ambiguous term to begin with.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:44 pm to John Barron
I have no idea if that's a hyper sonic missile.
How could a human eye tell the difference??
I really don't know.
IF Iran has hyper sonic missiles, it won't matter.
Iran doesn't have anything Israel doesn't have.
The biggest factor that Iran can't match Israel is Intelligence(big "I" and little "i").
I haven't seen this discussed much, but Israel has the best combat air force pilots in the world, who fly the best fighter jets in the world.
Iran can lob missiles on Israel but do not possess the precision weapons Israel has
How could a human eye tell the difference??
I really don't know.
IF Iran has hyper sonic missiles, it won't matter.
Iran doesn't have anything Israel doesn't have.
The biggest factor that Iran can't match Israel is Intelligence(big "I" and little "i").
I haven't seen this discussed much, but Israel has the best combat air force pilots in the world, who fly the best fighter jets in the world.
Iran can lob missiles on Israel but do not possess the precision weapons Israel has
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:46 pm to John Barron
I didn’t see it cause much damage. 
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:47 pm to Bluetick Smokey
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Guess how long stealth bomber/fighter technology was around before you knew it?
My father worked on the B2 in the 80's
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:00 pm to LookSquirrel
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Got a link, or anything to back that up. "Officially" the US says it does not.
There is a Reaper that clears the hypersonic test range in the Pacific. It is operated by a contractor. That’s all I’ll say. I cannot provide any link. Believe me or don’t. Doesn’t matter.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:06 pm to jmarto1
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Considering the US doesn't have them
It's called Minuteman. It makes big boom boom
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:14 pm to John Barron
Lots of ballistic missiles go hypersonic, it's not something new. Every ICBM for the last 70 years is hypersonic. Also, if that missile actually was traveling hypersonic you wouldnt have been able to see it from that close, would have just been an explosion
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:26 pm to John Barron
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John Barron
Appreciate your work.
However, 09/07/2023? As someone mentioned earlier, our military is 15-20 years ahead of what we know.
Work started in the 70's on F-117 and was not made public till 1987.
We have shite that would probably blow our minds. And that is cool cause we may need it really soon.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:37 pm to Pendulum
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Hypersonic missles is sort of a ambiguous term to begin with.
It really is. The US defines a hypersonic missile as one that can maneuver at hypersonic speeds. I seriously doubt Russia or China have missiles that can maneuver at hypersonic speeds.
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 7:44 pm
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