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re: Iran destroys Terminal 1 at Kuwait International Airport. At least 1 dead with 68 injured
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:07 pm to TheOtherWhiteMeat
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:07 pm to TheOtherWhiteMeat
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What I'm suggesting is with the regime in its death throw will throw whatever they have left to not just disrupt the ME, they'll attempt to break it. Something they haven't attempted yet.
I don't disagree
I just don't think they're in the death throw phase just yet. They seem to be going somewhat tit for tat at this point.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:13 pm to nicholastiger
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gas gonna be $10
No. China demand is falling off a cliff right now.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:14 pm to TheOtherWhiteMeat
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ran has been using proxies to attack the US for 47 fricking years.
Why do you never acknowledge 1953? Why can't anyone on this board acknowledge that we started it by trying regime change?
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:18 pm to imjustafatkid
Kill everyone of them goat fricking mofoer's 
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:19 pm to atlgamecockman
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Why do you never acknowledge 1953? Why can't anyone on this board acknowledge that we started it by trying regime change?
Yeah if you're going to go back 47 years you might as well tell the whole story
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:21 pm to atlgamecockman
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Why do you never acknowledge 1953?
Well, I've never been asked this so I don't know why you use the word "never". But since you asked.
You're talking about the implementation of the Shah, the same thing the Iranian people are asking for now. You don't seem to acknowledge that the Iranian people are not the same as the Islamic Regime. Did we interfere? Yes. Is that what started this? No.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:22 pm to wheelr
Doubt we do anything. Not sure what changed but Trump isn't going to strike back. That much is clear.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:25 pm to TheOtherWhiteMeat
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Did we interfere? Yes. Is that what started this? No.
If there is no Shah to overthrow it's not likely the clerics would have ever taken over the country.
We didn't put the current people in place, but we created the conditions for them to overthrow our puppet regime.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:32 pm to AlterEd
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We are pivoting away from this footing.
According to who?
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Not true.
Kuwait has a ton of oil.
They are a client state.
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Let the nations in that region police their own affairs.
Their affairs are a direct result of our decision to attack Iran without a plan to keep energy flowing globally.
This is our mess.
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Not true.
America didn’t start the war with Iran?
Are you trolling?
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:36 pm to texas tortilla
But how? I was told by Trump we neutered their military. Bebe walked him into this trap and he’s fricked now. He should’ve listened to Vance and Tulsi and not Bebe and the NeoCons
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:36 pm to tide06
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Their affairs are a direct result of our decision to attack Iran without a plan to keep energy flowing globally.
This is our mess.
Correct
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America didn’t start the war with Iran?
Are you trolling?
It's tough to imagine that someone could think that we didn't start this
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:38 pm to Powerman
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If there is no Shah to overthrow it's not likely the clerics would have ever taken over the country.
Before Reza was put in place Iran was ruled by another Shah (Ahmad Shah). I don't believe removing one Shah for another really changed anything other than Iran becoming more western friendly. It was a near certainty that the Islamic Regime would have came into power anyway.
Do I know this for a fact? No. Do you know otherwise? No
We can't really point this at 1953, but we certainly know what happened when the Islamic Regime took power.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:40 pm to tide06
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According to who?
According to many people who rightly see that the balance of power is shifting in the Middle East. The "hegemon" in the region moving forward is going to consist of a coalition led by Saudi Arabia. The US is disinvesting itself.
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Kuwait has a ton of oil.
They are a client state.
They are not a client state.
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Their affairs are a direct result of our decision to attack Iran without a plan to keep energy flowing globally.
This is our mess.
No, it isn't. Iran has been literally begging for an American arse kicking since the year before I was born. Someone was eventually going to have to do it. After literally hundreds of attacks against American citizens, soldiers, and interests around the world for nearly 5 frickin decades now, whatever we did and for however long we decided to do it was fully justified. As is the decision to cease those activities at a time of our own choosing.
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America didn’t start the war with Iran?
Are you trolling?
No, and no. See above.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:41 pm to Powerman
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It's tough to imagine that someone could think that we didn't start this
A lot of things are tough for you to imagine because you're a fricking idiot.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:42 pm to AlterEd
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This isn't our concern.
Maybe not, but I was correcting the assertions you made. Saudi Arabia can't even take out the Houthis next door in Yemen. They have absolutely no chance against Iran. And the other Gulf States would be much worse off than the KSA.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:43 pm to Powerman
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It's tough to imagine that someone could think that we didn't start this
You know the premise is bad when the person starts reinventing reality before even beginning to make an argument on its merits.
Whatever this is, isn’t or ends up being, where we are is a direct result of our own actions and decisions and pretending the situation isn’t what it is won’t change or help matters.
Its the sort of rationalization that causes additional bad decisions to be made before reality becomes unavoidable.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:44 pm to MrLSU
AG Blanche announces arrest of U.S.-Iranian citizen who aided Iran’s nuclear program
Today, Jamshid Ghomi, a dual U.S.-Iranian citizen who lives in a $35 million mansion in Orange County, California, was arrested on a federal criminal complaint charging him with selling computer technology to Iranian companies and Iran’s government — including technology to help with Iran’s military and nuclear program.
These allegations assert that the defendant violated U.S. sanctions against Iran, aided one of our nation’s enemies, supported Iran’s nuclear program, and got rich doing it. Not only is he being arrested today, but we also are beginning the process of seizing his mansion, which was purchased with his illegal proceeds. Thanks to the work of
@USAttyEssayli’s office, @CommerceGov, and @IRS_CI’s Los Angeles Field Office, he will face the full force of justice.
Today, Jamshid Ghomi, a dual U.S.-Iranian citizen who lives in a $35 million mansion in Orange County, California, was arrested on a federal criminal complaint charging him with selling computer technology to Iranian companies and Iran’s government — including technology to help with Iran’s military and nuclear program.
These allegations assert that the defendant violated U.S. sanctions against Iran, aided one of our nation’s enemies, supported Iran’s nuclear program, and got rich doing it. Not only is he being arrested today, but we also are beginning the process of seizing his mansion, which was purchased with his illegal proceeds. Thanks to the work of
@USAttyEssayli’s office, @CommerceGov, and @IRS_CI’s Los Angeles Field Office, he will face the full force of justice.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:49 pm to tide06
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Whatever this is, isn’t or ends up being, where we are is a direct result of our own actions and decisions and pretending the situation isn’t what it is won’t change or help matters.
Its the sort of rationalization that causes additional bad decisions to be made before reality becomes unavoidable.
I get that the people in government have to toe the line. I just can't imagine how a regular civilian could look at this with their eyes open and not see that we started this conflict. We had a months long build up in the area with all sorts of saber rattling and then attacked them before they attacked us. How could that be viewed as anything other than us starting the conflict?
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