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Posted on 2/23/18 at 8:47 pm to Jjdoc
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you can just simply be accused of something and have them taken
This already happens with just about w/ everything else, may as well be guns too.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 8:56 pm to Jjdoc
I have no problem with it if:
1) The suspect makes a threat or actually commits violence
2) There is a legal process involving a court.
Being in Seattle, though, I doubt either are true.
1) The suspect makes a threat or actually commits violence
2) There is a legal process involving a court.
Being in Seattle, though, I doubt either are true.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:10 pm to AUstar
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I have no problem with it if:
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1) The suspect makes a threat
I have a problem with that. A lot of people make empty threats. Even Obama made empty threats.
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2) There is a legal process involving a court.
The legal process is anti constitutional. For a mere accusation, a person could have every defense taken from his or her home.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:12 pm to Jjdoc
This is gonna get gud. I am not sure how deporting a few million tacos is not logical but confiscating 500 million guns is.
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:12 pm to slackster
The baker act didn’t save the kids in Florida how do you know this would have? Seems a pretty similar idea
The law didn’t fail the kids, those charged with implementing it did
The law didn’t fail the kids, those charged with implementing it did
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:34 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Remember when the political left and fake moderates called people nuts for even saying they wanted to take and ban guns?
"There is not another one like it in the USA. Anyone can request that guns be taken away from a person that a judge deems to be a threat to others… There’s a new unit that will remove those guns.”
The democrats are scared crapless because they know that they will never get the Trump democrats back. The working class want their guns to hunt and put food on the table.
A secret FISA court and now this....I dare anyone to call anyone that warned about this nuts.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 11:42 pm to Jjdoc
I would never want to be on that unit. They’re going to get shot at quite often.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:00 am to Jjdoc
Holee fricksticks.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:44 am to Jjdoc
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BTW.... you can just simply be accused of something and have them taken....
Sounds like the same methods used for turning in someone to social services for alledged allegations.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:08 am to Jjdoc
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Extreme Risk Protection orders were approved by voters through I-1491 in 2016. Civil Domestic Violence Protection Orders were passed by the Legislature in 2014, allowing courts to take guns from those accused of domestic violence when a victim petitions the court.
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“Our new firearms enforcement unit will be available to help victims apply to the court for an extreme risk protection order and then go give effect to that order,” he added. “Actually go and remove those weapons and store them, temporarily, while we try to figure out what’s going on in that person’s life.”
Temporarily. Yeah, sure. Right. Meanwhile, the accused is adjudged guilty until he (or she) spends a mint to prove innocence.
Kiro7
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:16 am to slackster
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This would have saved those kids in Florida, constitutional or not.
Would it have? Or would he have scraped together $500 and bought another one on Armslist Parkland? Or would he have gotten in his vehicle and crushed kids as school let out?
Some people see past their own nose.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:18 am to Jjdoc
Probably lots of white women round that place.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 1:08 pm to Revelator
It is.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 1:11 pm to ThePoo
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The baker act didn’t save the kids in Florida how do you know this would have? Seems a pretty similar idea
I don't have stats on me, but it seems that involuntary commitment to a hospital was MUCH more common in the old days than it is now. It used to be common practice if someone was really acting wacky (family usually had to be involved in getting it done). It seems we have gotten away from it since the 70's.
Point is, the "Baker Act" in Florida used to be common nationwide.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 1:13 pm to Scoop
Clearly.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:28 pm to Jjdoc
So now that Trump is supporting something like this, what do you all think?
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:50 pm to TigerTattle
How much do you want to bet that they are intentionally storing these weapons in a way that makes them unusable should they be returned to their owner?
Kind of like the FBI using search warrants to look at something and finding out they completely destroyed it when you get it back.
Kind of like the FBI using search warrants to look at something and finding out they completely destroyed it when you get it back.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:00 pm to slackster
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Not true. You need documented evidence a person is a threat to themselves or others, and a judge makes the ultimate decision.
Is there an appeal process before the "sentence" is carried out and guns are confiscated?
Actually, it seems odd. If a person can be deemed a danger, shouldn't the person be "confiscated" and not the guns? The guns didn't threaten anyone. If the dangerous person is left without guns, what stops them from using another tool to kill?
This doesn't seem like a very well thought out process, imo.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:06 pm to slackster
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18 calls to a competent sheriff's office plus a law like this would have given them cause to take his guns for up to a year.
Uh Huh.. Good luck ever getting them back.
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