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Internal Emails Show How Chaos at the CDC Slowed the Early Response to Coronavirus
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:35 pm
If you're looking for people to blame (I'm looking at you, whiney Leftists), add the CDC to your list.
more in this link, including copies of emails, from propublica, a non-profit news agency
quote:
The CDC fumbled its communication with public health officials and underestimated the threat of the coronavirus even as it gained a foothold in the United States, according to hundreds of pages of documents ProPublica obtained.
more in this link, including copies of emails, from propublica, a non-profit news agency
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 6:40 pm
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:37 pm to L.A.
I got a fab (yeah I know) notification for a cdc foundation fundraiser. Um they already got my money via taxes.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:44 pm to L.A.
Blame for what?
MSM wants you to believe that the lack of testing caused the economic collapse and social lockdowns. This is not cause and effect.
We could have had millions of available tests in every state and we would still be in the same position...social and economic lockdown. The fallacy of the argument lies in the nature of the virus:
1) Some percentage (up to or over 50% reported) of inflicted individuals never show a symptom.
2) Even those who ultimately show symptoms were asymptomatic for 2-14 days.
The people in category 1 would never go get tested. The people in category 2 would not get tested until after they develop symptoms...meaning they were shedding the virus potentially for a week or more before quarantine.
Testing provides only data points. It does nothing about the virus or spread. Once the virus was in America, social distancing and lockdown were inevitable.
But that fact does not help the Ds attack trump. They need to be able to point to something the federal gov did wrong that has led to the general public's misery. It's dirty and dangerous.
MSM wants you to believe that the lack of testing caused the economic collapse and social lockdowns. This is not cause and effect.
We could have had millions of available tests in every state and we would still be in the same position...social and economic lockdown. The fallacy of the argument lies in the nature of the virus:
1) Some percentage (up to or over 50% reported) of inflicted individuals never show a symptom.
2) Even those who ultimately show symptoms were asymptomatic for 2-14 days.
The people in category 1 would never go get tested. The people in category 2 would not get tested until after they develop symptoms...meaning they were shedding the virus potentially for a week or more before quarantine.
Testing provides only data points. It does nothing about the virus or spread. Once the virus was in America, social distancing and lockdown were inevitable.
But that fact does not help the Ds attack trump. They need to be able to point to something the federal gov did wrong that has led to the general public's misery. It's dirty and dangerous.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:47 pm to L.A.
Trump's fault...clearly.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:49 pm to L.A.
quote:
Internal Emails Show How Chaos at the CDC Slowed the Early Response to Coronavirus
BamaAtl (who TOTALLY doesn't work AT the CDC, just right next door to it) will be along shortly to tel lus how this is all false.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:50 pm to L.A.
I bet less than 5% of people at CDC voted for Trump.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:51 pm to L.A.
Meh. Bureaucracies are not designed to respond quickly. But that won’t stop the Leftists from blaming POTUS45.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:52 pm to Ex-Popcorn
quote:
We could have had millions of available tests in every state and we would still be in the same position...social and economic lockdown.
Lol. No. If we had millions of tests we could be testing people with symptoms and people without symptoms the entire time.
That is the point of growing testing to test anyone and everyone.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:54 pm to SSpaniel
quote:wouldn't know efficiency if you shoved it up her arse
BamaAtl
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:05 pm to lsu13lsu
quote:
we could be testing people with symptoms and people without symptoms the entire time
Lol. Right. The only reason you would test everyone now is because you now KNOW that lots of people are asymptomatic. We didn't know that until recently.
And, there's just no universe where we would have had enough tests for every American in every municipality. Just an absurd thought.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:07 pm to SSpaniel
quote:Case closed! Tells you exactly what kind of people work there
BamaAtl (who TOTALLY doesn't work AT the CDC, just right next door to it) will be along shortly to tel lus how this is all false.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:08 pm to lsu13lsu
quote:
people without symptoms the entire time.
How would you do this outside of just voluntary testing? Where would this testing be administered?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:09 pm to udtiger
quote:
Trump's fault...clearly.
There’s clearly only one recourse.
Sarcasm [OFF]
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:06 pm to dgnx6
quote:
How would you do this outside of just voluntary testing? Where would this testing be administered?
People would voluntarily do it to get to go back to work or if they were near someone who got it or if they worked at a hospital etc etc. People would be lining up to take it.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:30 am to lsu13lsu
C'mon, man...are you for real? You are living in a sci-fi fantasy world. Seriously.
You are suggesting the following:
1) The US should have been standing by at the ready in every locale with a test to give to a collective 350mm people for a virus no one had ever seen before!!!!
and
2) The US would have known that it had to test everyone just in case there were large numbers that showed no symptoms.
and
3) The US would have issued some sort of mandatory, nationwide order requiring every individual to go get tested in their local domicile (ignore how that would actually get carried out).
For real. That's one of the more absurd arguments I've ever read.
You are suggesting the following:
1) The US should have been standing by at the ready in every locale with a test to give to a collective 350mm people for a virus no one had ever seen before!!!!
and
2) The US would have known that it had to test everyone just in case there were large numbers that showed no symptoms.
and
3) The US would have issued some sort of mandatory, nationwide order requiring every individual to go get tested in their local domicile (ignore how that would actually get carried out).
For real. That's one of the more absurd arguments I've ever read.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:49 am to L.A.
They have one job. One. Uno. Un. Ichi. And they scramble like a Chinese fire drill when they have to do it.
I swear. I always said if I was to give one bit of advice to a new president... it would be for every agency who’s job was to respond to a natural or man made disaster to develop an internal checklist of actions to do before, during, and after. And it would include immediate contracting with private business to aid in response.
Earthquake? Refer to the white binder
Hurricane? Red binder
Tornado? Green binder
Pandemic? Of course the brown binder.
I swear. I always said if I was to give one bit of advice to a new president... it would be for every agency who’s job was to respond to a natural or man made disaster to develop an internal checklist of actions to do before, during, and after. And it would include immediate contracting with private business to aid in response.
Earthquake? Refer to the white binder
Hurricane? Red binder
Tornado? Green binder
Pandemic? Of course the brown binder.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:56 am to L.A.
I'm not surprised. You can drill until you're blue in the face but when it actually goes down, unless you've got real world experience with the incident, it'll still be a shite-show. Anyone that's involved with emergency response planning has experienced this. I just hope they learn from it and maintain some of that knowledge for the future.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:28 am to L.A.
Big Government fails? No way.
We should let it control the entire healthcare system!
We should let it control the entire healthcare system!
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:43 am to Ex-Popcorn
You have owned this thread.
nailed it.
nailed it.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:57 am to lsu13lsu
Then they have your dna.
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