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re: Inflation "cools" to 2.9%

Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:21 am to
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3491 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:21 am to
But the iphone is still reasonably priced. Bunch of clowns we have running things.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116837 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:21 am to
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Not a single normal person, who buys groceries, gas, pays utility bills, buys clothes, etc... believes that inflation has "cooled"


I just got my car insurance bill. It goes up $80 for two cars every 6 months. No accidents, no claims.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94323 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:26 am to
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just got my car insurance bill. It goes up $80 for two cars every 6 months. No accidents, no claims.



One of the bigger parts of inflation reports

How does a fed hike/cut effect that?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26568 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:29 am to
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All that easy money from years of basically zero is what got us here in the first place. Rates should never drop below the 4-5% range


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So you are fine with a 1.25 cut

Thanks for agreeing we need cuts


Your "gotcha" doesn't follow from what he said at all. First he said he thinks the rate should never drop BELOW the 4-5% range. He didn't say it should never be higher. Second the rate is currently just over 5% which close to the range he said should be the lowest it should go. Nothing he said even remotely suggests that he thinks it should be a 1.25% cut.

He obviously thinks with inflation just now coming off some historic highs and still at 3% (still above where the Fed wants it to be) and consumer spending STILL holding pretty steady (because people are STILL willing to take on debt even at the current rates) that it probably doesn't make sense to lower them right now and give people access to even cheaper debt at this time.

He's probably right. Purely from what the Fed itself has said and most economic metrics rates should NOT be lowered in September. The only reason they would do it is trying to foolishly predict something that they have said would have already happened for a year (and has not) or because it is political. .
This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 9:32 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94323 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:31 am to
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BELOW the 4-5% range.


Right and a 1.25% cut would put us at 4%

So it wouldnt be below 4%
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26568 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:37 am to
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Right and a 1.25% cut would put us at 4%

So it wouldnt be below 4%


Did you even read the rest? Your gotcha attempts make you look limited. I'm sure you aren't but that's how you are coming across.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12300 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:38 am to
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I’m convinced that many would prefer identity politics over the economy


Agreed! People don't want to be fiscally responsible.That requires sacrifice. Being an SJW, allows you to make a few posts, then get back to your white wine and Xanax
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19526 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:41 am to
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then get back to your white wine and Xanax
ew. I'll stick with my Miller and cocaine thank you very much.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2891 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:41 am to
Still 45% higher than the historical target. No rate cut until we get back to 2.0%
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
25166 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:41 am to
In last 10yrs , Case Schiller national home price index is up 96% for a 7+% annualized increase

$GLD is up 81% for a 6 1/8% annualized increase

Total UST debt is up 99%

Inflation is when too many printed dollars are chasing too few goods

The idea inflation all better a joke
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94323 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:43 am to
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Did you even read the rest?


Its not a gotcha

If the rate is 5.25 and he said NOT BELOW 4% then a 1.25 cut would be fine

I mean its just math. You can ramble on thinking you are smart all you want
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52687 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:49 am to
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Amazing what you can do when you game the frick with the metrics.

Well, that has been the purpose of the rate hikes over the last year and a half. That is the positive; the negative is the economic slowdown, and the trick is to cut rates at just the right moment to capture the lower inflation but spur just enough economic activity to keep from a recession.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26568 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:55 am to
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Its not a gotcha

If the rate is 5.25 and he said NOT BELOW 4% then a 1.25 cut would be fine

I mean its just math. You can ramble on thinking you are smart all you want


I'll try one more time. He said "Rates should never drop below the 4-5% range." Obviously that means he thinks that is the low end where rates should ever be. With the current economic indicators (including inflation and consumer spending STILL being higher than normal) and the Fed's own statements and benchmarks for cutting rates not being met it's pretty clear that the poster would not "be fine with a 1.25 rate cut" taking it down to 4% like you are saying.

Everything except "well it's just time" or "political pressure" suggests rates should not be cut in September.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94323 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Rates should never drop below the 4-5% range


Great its at 5.25 so if he doesnt want it BELOW 4% then there is room for 1.25 cut in his mind

I mean wtf is wrong woth you

quote:

Everything except "well it's just time" or "political pressure" suggests rates should not be cut in September.


You cant be serious
This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 9:58 am
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29141 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:57 am to
US Bureau of Labor Statistics

The CPI rose 2.9% from June 24, 2024.


2024 Jan. 0.3 Feb. 0.4 March 0.4 April 0.3 May 0.0 June -0.1 July 0.2
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26568 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Great its at 5.25 so if he doesnt want it BELOW 4% then there is room for 1.25 cut in his mind

I mean wtf is wrong woth you


Okay I take it back.

Your ability to understand is in fact limited.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94323 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Your ability to understand is in fact limited.


You just rambled on with a bunch of nonsense
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112918 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:23 pm to
Another celebratory talking point is that inflation is now as low as it was in March 2021.

In other words, it's been 3% or higher for over 3 fricking years.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2661 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:43 pm to
What does inflation % look like for 2010 through 2019 (cumulative) compared to 2020 through today?

The annual reset just makes things confusing.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27777 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:49 pm to
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Last year? Way to move that goal post short bus. Try since Trump was in office.

Why would i compare the Harris/Biden economy from last year to the Harris/Biden economy this year?

I take it, you don't have kids, nor a spouse. I keep a spreadsheet and have been doing so for over 10 years tracking our finances since my wife and I got married. In 2019, my budget for groceries was $200/week.


Umm…the 2.9% inflation figure is not a figure comparing prices in 2024 to prices five years earlier in 2019. That’s not how it works.
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