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re: Indiana Activist Judge Rules There is a ‘Religious Right’ to Kill Babies in Abortions

Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:19 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:19 am to
One of the melting scholars even took this to the OT
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:32 am to
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The fetus would be equivalent to the negotiations that go on prior to forming the corporation.


In a strictly legal sense, yes.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:40 am to
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In a strictly legal sense, yes.

That is all I was discussing

And, just to get back to the origination of this digression, it was because a person ignore that this is the "strict legal sense" in the US and tried to criticize the exceptions in Indiana's abortion laws for creating that legal standard. All I was doing was pointing out his argument was bad and ignored the larger standard that you referenced above

People are just too emotional about this topic to discuss it rationally.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:44 am to

Moral systems and legal systems have areas of overlap, but they are 2 different systems.
Posted by UtahCajun
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 10:10 am to
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A "religion" that kills unborn, innocent babies is evil.


Worshipers of Moloch say "YES"!!!

Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 10:20 am to
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They're just now getting brave and bold enough to say which "religion" is giving the the "right" to do so.


Judaism, the precursor to Christianity


While this was a Jewish "group" that filed the case, I do not believe they are representative of the general Jewish opinion regarding abortion. Generally, the Jewish stance on abortion is it's ok only when the mother's life is in jeopardy.
Posted by jnethe1
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 10:54 am to
When you used the phrase:
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An unborn fetus not being a person


What did you mean by that?

Posted by jnethe1
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 10:55 am to
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Judaism, the ones who denied their inheritance when they denied Jesus.


FIFY
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:00 am to
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What did you mean by that?


He just means legally,
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Fetuses and cadavers are not human beings for purposes of criminal homicide.
Although it is not ordinarily difficult to determine that a homicide victim was a human being and was once alive, certain
circumstances can complicate the determination. The criminal law does not recognize fetuses as human beings for purposes of criminal homicide (since the death of a fetus is the subject matter of the law of abortion and feticide). Thus, if the dead human being is a small baby, we must first determine that the baby was born alive and that the umbilical cord
was severed in order for that baby to have an independent existence (which was then terminated by the act of another human being). Terminating the life of a fetus is not a criminal homicide, but rather, is an abortion or feticide which may be lawful or criminal depending upon the circumstances.


https://www.in.gov/ctb/files/appendix1.pdf
This post was edited on 3/7/26 at 11:01 am
Posted by Rip Torner
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:01 am to
The local autist who lacks even an ounce of pragmatism has spoken
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:08 am to
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Hoosier Jews for Choice


Interesting isn’t it.
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:09 am to
The Democratic Socialists/Cultural Marxists have bastardized and destroyed the literal meaning of certain words in the English language, the same people are doing their best to destroy God's Word.
Posted by SOSFAN
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:12 am to
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So a baby isn’t a person until it is born?


For basically all legal purposes? Yes.


You're absolutely disgusting. Enjoy your time on Earth because eternity is going to be pretty hot for you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:14 am to
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What did you mean by that?


It has been explained multiple times. Read the thread
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:16 am to
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The local autist who lacks even an ounce of pragmatism has spoken


He knows about the law, politics and raising babies. ...a little bit of everything.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:16 am to
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You're absolutely disgusting. Enjoy your time on Earth because eternity is going to be pretty hot for you.


Prime example of how emotional thinking is bad.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:25 am to
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Prime example of how emotional thinking is bad.


Save your bs for judgment day.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:27 am to
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Generally, the Jewish stance on abortion is it's ok only when the mother's life is in jeopardy.


I looked it up earlier and there is some serious latitude acceptable regarding health or life of the mother.

I also read that it's not a person until the head is delivered.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:27 am to
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Save your bs for judgment day.


I don't think being able to accuse state the law is a sin.

Your emotions are making you see a different discussion that doesn't actually exist, like the people who believed in the Satanic Panic and truly believed they saw devil worship (when none existed)
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:27 am to
What religion and where in any bible does it say it's OK to kill a baby?
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