I'd change the way you said this. If you prevent the last stage of conception, it's easily argued that you prevented conception, which I assume is the basis of your gotcha.

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Posted by FooManChoo

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Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:27 am to AggieHank86

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You are far more consistent than the average abortion opponent. Kudos on that.

I agree and it's a shame more pro-life advocates aren't more consistent. The position would be stronger, I believe, if they were.

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It's also why I agree with Alabama's refusal to provide exceptions for rape and incest. That's a consistent position to take.

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Posted by Adam Banks

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Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:40 am to AggieHank86

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implantation (the final stage of the conception process

Implantation is part of conception so I’m not sure what your point is. You gotchad your own gotcha

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Posted by pwejr88

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Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:55 pm to ApexTiger

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would be foolish

So would dressing like a slut in a bar and then complaining when a guy won’t leave you alone.

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Posted by NC_Tigah

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Posted on 5/16/19 at 4:29 pm to FooManChoo

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Viability is a moving target that can change as technology changes

Sure. But nonetheless, we know what it is currently.

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Viability in NY City is different than viability in a small village in India.

Generally medicine addresses viability as a possiblity, rather than an assurance.

Also as "viability" is often based on an EGA estimate, buffer timeframes are employed. E.g., w/o an ultrasound, DOC based EGA estimates have an error rate of as much as 4wks.

So in terms of viability, those factors normally lead to a 20wk EGA legislative cutoff. Put differently, as 20wks is an estimated age, with errors factored viability is possible, even though an actual rather than estimated 20wk fetus is not viable.

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Conception is recognized as a scientifically verifiable start

Except in vivo (IRL), conception is not actually immediately verifiable. Hence the problem with a "morning after" pill being a de facto "abortion" in many instances, by your definition.

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