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re: In Montreal, you can’t have a Christian singer have a worship service in a Church

Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:37 pm to
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A man sang about Jesus at church.

You said that isn’t allowed.

That alone is not what I said.

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You claimed it wasn’t sincere worship

This is objectively false.

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Again, don’t pull a Hank.

After you misquoted me intentionally and then outright lied?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:38 pm to
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Because I won't lie?


So, according to your prior post, that means that you aren’t a Christian.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:38 pm to
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And who didn't do that?

The concert that went on illegally.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:38 pm to
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Because I won't lie? Ok


Well if you're still standing by this argument you can choose stupid or dishonest. I have no preference.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:38 pm to
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Which there was none.

Now you're arguing with undisputed facts, not even opinions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:40 pm to
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Well if you're still standing by this argument you can choose stupid or dishonest.

It's neither.

But I won't lie and call a concert "worship" in furtherance of an intentional ruse.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:40 pm to
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The concert that went on illegally.


I don't think it did. I heard they got a really stern warning.
Posted by Cromulent
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:42 pm to
You lie to yourself daily, bud.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:43 pm to
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But I won't lie and call a concert "worship" in furtherance of an intentional ruse.


I bet you wouldn't like who grok said this post was from.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:43 pm to
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It's neither. But I won't lie and call a concert "worship" in furtherance of an intentional ruse


I'm starting to develop a preference to call it stupidity.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44326 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:44 pm to
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A man sang about Jesus at church. You said that isn’t allowed.


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That alone is not what I said.


Alone no, but thanks for admitting that you said it.

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You claimed it wasn’t sincere worship


You defined sincere worship, and then stated that this doesn’t fit the definition because it was in a city on his tour. Evidently (according to you). he isn’t allowed to worship in city’s on his concert tour.

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Again, don’t pull a Hank.


Exactly
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:46 pm to
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I bet you wouldn't like who grok said this post was from

Do tell?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:47 pm to
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A permit to worship in a church?


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That's clearly not what was going on

If you host an event at a church, you need a permit. You can't spin it as "worship" to break the law.


Help me understand how you came to the insanely stupid notion that a church hosting a Christian singer is anything other than worship.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:47 pm to
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Alone no, but thanks for admitting that you said it.


The entirety of what I said is what matters.

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You defined sincere worship

No, the courts did. And has been explained to you, that isn't relevant for discussing SF as his sincerity isn't in question. That's why we're having the current conversation.

This has been explained to you like 5x now.

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and then stated that this doesn’t fit the definition

A lie.

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Evidently (according to you). he isn’t allowed to worship in city’s on his concert tour.

Doubling down on the lie.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:48 pm to
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Help me understand how you came to the insanely stupid notion that a church hosting a Christian singer is anything other than worship.

When its' a concert being part of a concert tour.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:54 pm to
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When its' a concert being part of a concert tour.



I'll remind you again, in spite of your personal opinion there is legal precedent that in Canada that a service (which includes song and prayer) is different than other public gatherings.

This is Loyola, where the state is not the arbitrator of what "worship" is.

It's obvious you don't like it, but it's been entirely your opinion that you are using. Why is that? Usually you are far more informative, right now you are repeating your opinion about a legal system that you really don't know well.

What makes this one so mentally frustrating that your worldview collapses if indeed religions don't need to follow the laws of other institutions.

In Loyola they sure don't. Great case btw.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:54 pm to
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When its' a concert being part of a concert tour.


Bump
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:55 pm to
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They were told this wouldn't work prior to the event.


So lawless authoritarians going to act like lawless authoritarians?

And you think that proves your point?
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 5:55 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:55 pm to
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When its' a concert being part of a concert tour.

This is retarded. Sense can be made of your arguments only if you get to define everything, but that ain't the real world. Even on PT.
Posted by 5WFSHR
Montgomery, AL
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:56 pm to
Make Canada A State
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