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re: In England right now...some observations

Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:28 pm to
It’s going to get worse when the Tories get clobbered in July. They may lose 100+ seats.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:34 pm to
Well his estimate seems pretty close to the actual. I don't think this is the own you think it is.
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:42 pm to
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“Conservatives” have ruled Britain for the past 14 years and have been utter and complete failures as far as conservatism. They’re a lot like our GOPe here.

I lived in London for about two years from about 2007-2009 and recently visited there. It is shocking to see how much it has changed in that relatively short time span.


It's almost like someone else is pulling the strings of power, eh.
PM and Parliament are there in London, but are they really the power?

The US is what 80% or so against the same crap here and yet we are following the same path.

Democracy, right? Democracy would stop this nonsense.

There must be another factor involved.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
17676 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:45 pm to
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their leaders fricked them over


I am interested to see if the plan to send illegals to Rwanda works out.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:46 pm to
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Well his estimate seems pretty close to the actual. I don't think this is the own you think it is.



Plus his demographic info is 3 years old. Scroll down to figures 2 and 3in this LINK (it's interactive, so I can't copy an image). 2021 was the beginning of an exponential increase in UK immigration. They've let in several million non-EU immigrant since his info was recorded. The city in question (Huddersfield) only had ~140k people at the time. If the 3rd world invaders know that a certain town already has ~20% (in 2021) of their people making up the population, they're going to flock to it. It very well may have a 33% Muslim population today.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49620 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:50 pm to
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I am interested to see if the plan to send illegals to Rwanda works out.



Which country is doing this? We should send all of our illegals to Rwanda as well (including Central Americans, Chinese).
Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
Member since Jan 2012
4162 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:58 pm to
America (for the time being) is more English than England is now. Sad. White majority countries are so racist and problematic that everyone in the world seemingly demands permanent residence and citizenship so that they can save us all from “white supremacy”.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 7:21 pm to
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Nope. 20%


Only 20%! It’s almost like the Muslims aren’t even there! 1 in 5 is nothing….except that it’s a higher percentage than Blacks in the US.

You are a dumbass.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 7:27 pm to
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Same scenario when we were in Switzerland last year. Maybe it’s a vacation hot spot near Interlaken, Switzerland but westerners were a significant minority


We were in a small northern canton where this was most certainly not the case.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 7:31 pm to
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Which country is doing this?


The UK. The UK government is paying Rwanda to take their illegals. Italy is paying Albania to do the same thing.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
58306 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 7:33 pm to
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The actions leading up to it are completely different though.

Britain allowed virtually anyone from their empire around the world to come immigrate to England with easy citizenship. Theirs wasn’t an unwitting invasion, but an invitation.
Uh. Thats exactly what’s happened here.

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And then they got outbred.
Hve you spent any time around immigrant families?
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16189 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 7:41 pm to
I was talking with a friend and said the same thing in regards to where the immigrants are coming from.

The biggest issue for Europe is they're importing Muslims by the millions. The one saving grace about our situation is that the millions of people pouring over our border share our religion and in many cases are a lot more pious in terms of being Christians.

While our situation is bad, it's fundamentally different in our favor then what Europe is facing.
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 7:44 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
29927 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:18 pm to
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Conservatives” have ruled Britain for the past 14 years and have been utter and complete failures as far as conservatism.

The term “Conservative” in British politics also doesn’t mean anything approaching American conservatism. The political spectrum is an entirely different playing field.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
23214 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:28 pm to
My ancestors were from Yorkshire.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
72036 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:28 pm to
I’ll give an example,


In 2001 Birmingham, UK was about 14% Muslim and now it’s 30% Muslim and 34% Christian.

This is only going one way.


It was probably the same there as it is here.


You can openly be critical and down rt disgusting toward Christians. But say anything about Islam and you are a racist.
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
52895 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:34 pm to
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These "immigrants" have become a permanent underclass whose values are wholly irreconcilable with the native English.


This is something the bleeding heart progessives somehow can't seem to wrap their head around. I don't know if they just refuse to believe it or believe that their acceptance of others will lead to them being ignored as the culture shifts. See: LGBTQ for Palestine.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
20446 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:37 pm to
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Don't believe your numbers


Immigrants are grossly undercounted across Western Europe for political reasons. They're trying to hide the scale of the problem.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
28528 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:04 pm to
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Uh. Thats exactly what’s happened here.


I agree. The end result is the same. The difference is that most of the “immigrants” in England were already British citizens due to the empire.

Posted by ValhallaAwaits
Member since Aug 2021
506 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:50 pm to
You’re a contrarian fool…their 6.5% is 6 times more than our Muslim population in the US!

Yep…nothing to worry about. You’re consistent at least.
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
398 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:29 pm to
Here’s the thing he doesn’t understand.

The muzzies might only be 20% but they are are much younger population. Yea the Brits might have more people on the census but it’s grandma in the nursing home and grandpa in the reclining chair.

The young muzzies are out and about and I bet that 20% feels like 50%
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