re: Important but subtle question about the Ukraine situation.

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Whistleblower complaint looks more credible evety day and he is willing to testify under oath.

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So, he is willing to give his opinion under oath? That is some must see tv.

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Trump is about to get the Bill Clinton treatment,

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Clinton's impeachment proceedings were over his perjury, which he later admitted to.

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Clinton's impeachment proceedings were over his perjury, which he later admitted to.

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That was one of the two charges he was impeached on, and your point is what exactly?

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Whistleblower complaint looks more credible evety day

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Well, except for the call transcript (the most solid evidence we have) being nothing like what the whistleblower described. Oh, and that they hadn't had contact with any members of Congress or their staff when they filed their complaint.

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he is willing to testify under oath

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Nope. Latest news this morning is that he/she is willing to give written answers to questions and allow that to be used as evidence. At best that's playing fast and loose with the term "testify under oath".

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Not impeachable necessarily but improper.

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Without the Biden video, I would agree and I think most would as well.

I agree the focus should be on Ukraine ties to the 2016 election but don't fall for the hype. The video itself shows Biden, as Vice President, in a textbook example of the quid pro quo charge the Democrats are having to stretch reality just to say Trump inferred.

To buy into the "improper" mindset with the video in existence is to basically say "anyone running for President is immune to investigation while running". That is an environment we can never allow to exist.

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uh, I dunno, that perjury is an actual crime for which there was evidence as opposed to, um, what exactly?

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Absent the witch hunt of what importance was it that Clinton had sex with another consenting adult?

My point is both impeachment hearings were partisan waste of time and money done solely for political purposes and they will get Trump on some innocuous comment made just like Clinton and nothing will happen and the world will keep turning.

Now please spell your point out if you are able to.

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Whistleblower complaint looks more credible evety day

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What part exactly is credible? His opinion part or some other part?

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Whistleblower complaint looks more credible evety day and he is willing to testify under oath.

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The dWB's complaint has gained nothing but derision since it was made public -

his 'testifying' is to be anonymously issuing statements written by Schiff and his lawyers. == total bullshite.

First he is merely an anti-trump activist - made up a story with zero evidence (other than 'interpretations' that other trump-haters had whispered about in their never ending quest to find something - anything - to charge Trump with.

We have already suffered thru 3 years of a Govt-funded attack on Trump via the "Mueller investigation" which was nothing more than a witch hunt trying desperately to find something - anything - Trump did wrong.

SO - on the very day after Muller fell face first into his rotten gruel demonstrating the whole thing was total bullshite - Schiff digs out a dog-Whistle Blower that would submit a Schiff-prepared 'report' of what he had "heard" from other Trump haters.

This is criminal conspiracy - and I can only hope I live long enough to see some of these seditionist hang.

And I'd like to see scum like you have an acceptable substitute for a red "x" carved into your foreheads.

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I will say this I do believe it would have been improper for Trump to have requested an investigation of Joe Biden.

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Why?
We know Ukraine had a MAJOR corruption problem during the Obama years. What we should know, but don't yet, is the degree to which the US contributed to that corruption.


Here is some of what we know:
• We know Hunter Biden joined the Burisma Board in April 2014 and was paid at least $3Million with absolutely no qualification other than his relationship to JoeBiden.
• We know Ukraine's General Prosecutor (UGP) oversaw an investigation forcing Mykola Zlochevsky, the Burisma CEO, to flee the country in Dec 2014
• We know that within two months of Zlochevsky's exit, the US instilled a foreigner, David Sakvarelidze, into the Prosecutor General's office. Sakvarelidze immediately set about undermining the Gen Prosecutor.
• We know that at the same time it was claiming Shokin, the UGP, to be refusing to investigate cases, the US was defunding Shokin's office and denying funding for those same investigations.
• We know JoeBiden ultimately forced (extorted) Shokin's dismissal.
• We know Shokin's replacement Yuriy Lutsenko, termed by Biden to be a "good man", is an alcoholic ex-con who did not even have a law degree.
• We know that within months of Lutsenko's appointment, Burisma's CEO was able to return from exile due to investigations being dropped.

So given what we know, why in the world shouldn't we give Ukraine the green light to look into Joe Biden's actions?

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What events have been proven to be inaccurate?

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In fact the more appropriate question is, other than fact Trump and Zelensky had a phone call, what complaints have proven to be accurate?

We have the transcript. There was no quid pro quo.

Further, even if there had been, the POTUS has every right to issue one.
In the case of Joe Biden, Joe admits to extorting Ukraine with US taxpayer money to fire its General Prosecutor, Shokin. Shokin was investigating Burisma at the time. Burisma is a company which appears to have hired Biden's son for no reason but to influence Joe. Subsequent to Shokin's dismissal, investigations into Burisma were dropped.

You don't think Zelensky should be looking into that?