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I'm proud we went into Afghanistan....
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:11 pm
I'm not gonna rewrite my own history. I wanted to see Bin Laden and Al Qeda pay with blood. Every year when 9/11 rolls around I thank God for those guys that were lining up to stomp some rag heads. That fire in all us heading into war was the LAST THING that all Americans had in common. I'm glad we smoked those terrorists by the thousands.
As far as Iraq, my preference was to take out Saddam and dare the next guy to cause trouble.
But both wars lasted way way longer than they should have. Tells me that Bush 41 was smarter than his kid.
As far as Iraq, my preference was to take out Saddam and dare the next guy to cause trouble.
But both wars lasted way way longer than they should have. Tells me that Bush 41 was smarter than his kid.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:13 pm to Bayoubred
Going into Iraq was a complete mistake. Going into Afghanistan to take out Al Qaeda, was understandable.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:13 pm to windshieldman
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Going into Iraq was a complete mistake. Going into Afghanistan to take out Al Qaeda, was understandable.
Nation building was a mistake.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:15 pm to windshieldman
In the future, no more hearts and minds BS. If we ever decide to enter an F’ing war, mass destruction on a scale that ends it in a few days, and GTFO and let them pic up the pieces.....
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:16 pm to Bayoubred
Iraq was to save face for Daddy and Cheney, who fricked up royally, not taking out Hussein. We had no choice in Afghanistan. Here or there.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:17 pm to Bayoubred
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I'm proud we went into Afghanistan
There needed to be a clear endgame and exit strategy. There wasn’t.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:17 pm to Bayoubred
Should have nuked half the middle east and dared any country to say a fricking word.
Not a single soldier needed to die for the MIC.
Not a single soldier needed to die for the MIC.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:17 pm to Godfather1
Never get involved in a land war in Asia.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:19 pm to Bayoubred
We never had to set foot there. No one, not the British Empire, the Red Army, no one, has been successful on the ground in Afghanistan.
But we could have won this conflict in a matter of a couple of weeks and set the tone for years to come had we done one thing. We should have used tactical nuclear weapons in Afghanistan as a response to 9-11.
We should have nuked the terrorist training camps, wiped the poppy fields from the face of the earth for good, and when we found out Osama was hiding at Tora Bora nuked his arse too.Any other targets should have been serviced too.
We would have been totally justified in this response, NO ONE would have dared said anything and the country would have backed whatever we did in striking back. In addition, anyone associated with the attacks should have been taken out by conventional means elsewhere, whether it be snipers Special Ops or a Tomahawk through a window.
A message would have been sent loud and clear. The gloves are now off and we will kill you ALL if you ever do anything close to this again. A lot of good Americans would be alive and well today that are not, and many problems we have had in the years after would simply not have come to pass.
But we could have won this conflict in a matter of a couple of weeks and set the tone for years to come had we done one thing. We should have used tactical nuclear weapons in Afghanistan as a response to 9-11.
We should have nuked the terrorist training camps, wiped the poppy fields from the face of the earth for good, and when we found out Osama was hiding at Tora Bora nuked his arse too.Any other targets should have been serviced too.
We would have been totally justified in this response, NO ONE would have dared said anything and the country would have backed whatever we did in striking back. In addition, anyone associated with the attacks should have been taken out by conventional means elsewhere, whether it be snipers Special Ops or a Tomahawk through a window.
A message would have been sent loud and clear. The gloves are now off and we will kill you ALL if you ever do anything close to this again. A lot of good Americans would be alive and well today that are not, and many problems we have had in the years after would simply not have come to pass.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:19 pm to Bayoubred
I wish we would go into California. Stupid frick's out there don't deserve that land.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:19 pm to Godfather1
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There needed to be a clear endgame and exit strategy. There wasn’t.
Truth be told there never really is. Even WWII there wasn't a real end game and even what end game there was (stop Hitler) morphed by the end to protect Europe from Soviet expansion.
Hell, we are still in Europe left over from WWII.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:19 pm to PillPusher
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Never get involved in a land war in Asia.
Get ready for another one. It's coming, and it's going to be brutal.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:22 pm to Bayoubred
We could have bombed them to glass and be in the exact same spot we're in 19 years later. Al Qaeda would be crushed and the Taliban would control half of Afghanistan but we wouldn't have spent trillions of dollars and had thousands of soldiers die.
Osama said the goal of 9/11 was like the USSR to get the US caught in "the bear trap" of Afghanistan and to bankrupt the US and destroy our country financially and into ruin. You can't deny it's worked so far.
Osama said the goal of 9/11 was like the USSR to get the US caught in "the bear trap" of Afghanistan and to bankrupt the US and destroy our country financially and into ruin. You can't deny it's worked so far.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:23 pm to Bayoubred
The guys we fought against in Afghanistan were our buddies 20 years earlier when we were giving them weapons to fight the Soviets. It's Exhibit A in America's moronic foreign policy. And Al Qaeda was primarily composed of radicals born and raised in Saudi Arabia, our second closest "ally" in the region and also a benefactor of American taxpayer aid in the form of money and weapons. It's Exhibit B in America's moronic foreign policy. Trump has been very good about not starting new wars, but our continued alliance with the Saudi and Gulf State monarchies is troubling.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:24 pm to OchoDedos
We don't have to fight Charlie Chan on his terms either. People do not want to be under the Chinese thumb. Simply do as President Trump is doing, we can ruin them economically if we so choose and their own people will fight the war for us.
They fear revolt more than anything, and that government is not built to support all those people.
They fear revolt more than anything, and that government is not built to support all those people.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:25 pm to KosmoCramer
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Nation building was a mistake.
This.
I agree with going in and teaching them not to frick with us, but then we should have left and let them deal with rebuilding themselves, with the promise that if they act up again we double the retribution. 3rd time they frick with us, their nation becomes glass.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:28 pm to SCLibertarian
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The guys we fought against in Afghanistan were our buddies 20 years earlier when we were giving them weapons to fight the Soviets.
I know it isn't 100% but everyone really should watch Charlie Wilson's War.
Some people knew it would come because of things we did or didn't do.
I'm always of the position of if you ask for help don't bitch about the manner in how you get it.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:29 pm to SCLibertarian
Saudi has us by the balls, though. Even though we aren’t dependent on them, like we used to be, they trade oil in US dollars, making it the World’s reserve currency. We lose that distinction and we have problems, and it might just have to be done, at some point, but will be a painful step....
Posted on 9/11/20 at 6:30 pm to Bayoubred
I'm very proud of the men and women who went to serve the nation and still am today.
The causes of both actions are very questionable and reflective.
Police actions without an "all or nothing" victory and rule of engagement by political feeling are bad, and must be avoided at all cost.
IMO
The causes of both actions are very questionable and reflective.
Police actions without an "all or nothing" victory and rule of engagement by political feeling are bad, and must be avoided at all cost.
IMO
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