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re: I’m not interested in conceding. Desantis is great, but Trump 2024.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:39 am to dgnx6
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:39 am to dgnx6
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I’ve heard people in Louisiana say they are afraid to go to FL because the governor is crazy.
Not surprising since your people like voting for Democrats in a Governor's race.
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:01 am to _Hurricane_
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I’m 22 years old and understand the situation. No one will save this country, but Trump is our historical middle finger to the world.
I am glad you have this passion at 22 years old but you do not understand the situation and you prove this in your very next sentence.
This country is not lost and giving the world the middle finger certainly is not how you go about fixing the problems we have. You sound like an irrational person who does not think before he acts and probably hurts, or at least makes it more difficult to get your points accepted. Trump has the same problem. His ideas are good and his intentions right, but he makes more noise than needed and creates his own distractions, that hurts his implementation.
DeSantis is a far better Trump than Trump is himself. DeSantis has the exact same fight in him and sees the exact same enemy he has to overcome to succeed with his policies. Trump was there first and has provided the road map for not only how to be politically successful against the MSM but he also exposed the objectors to his policies.
Trump can still today harness the votes for election but his downfall proven in his first term is that he does not have the political connection to implement his policies, watch his back, and fight off his detractors. Not many capable professionals are going to want to get close to the lightening rod that Trump is. Many of his advisors racked up huge legal fees and took PR hits and that forced Trump to rely on opportunist looking to profit off books and leaks.
DeSantis will not have the same problems as Trump and he will have the huge advantage of having seen how the machine thwarted Trump. Trump sees it now but he still does not have the means to stop it from happening again. DeSantis has a political operation now, an operation that he knows and can trusts to fight like he does. DeSantis will bring back the fighters and also bring in a new younger force of operatives. I guarantee you that DeSantis will not rely on a RINO to lead the DOJ and he will have a plan to circumvent the deep state civil service employees. He saw them in action, they have been exposed, they have deplenished their weapons.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 10:04 am
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:13 am to SquatchDawg
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Trump didn’t create MAGA. MAGA is what conservatives have wanted for 20 years.
Trump won over people before MAGA. Trumps first move was to focus on an enemy that was not perceived as being political ... the MSM. When he focused his ire on the media he pulled in the Republican base, the independents, and some moderate Democrats. He took away the ability to simply define him as a Republican monster.
From their he was able to build MAGA.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:14 am to _Hurricane_
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Tell me why I should be hopeful. I don’t know much about life, but I feel like I know where our leaders are taking us.
You are wise beyond your years. Liberalism/progressivism/communism has been leading this country down the tubes for 60 years at an ever increasing rate. Their radical policies and legislation never gets reversed as individual rights continue to be eroded. Nothing will change as long as these leftists control the media, education, much of the government (especially the bureaucracy), foreign influence, and many large corporations. I don't see that ever happening.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:37 am to UTMaverick
Who is going to beat Trump in 2024?
And if they cheat again, it won’t matter anyway.
And if they cheat again, it won’t matter anyway.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:39 am to _Hurricane_
You are going to get behind DeSantis in 2024 and you are going to like it, cuck.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:14 pm to _Hurricane_
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B. People like you are the gaping vaginas who hold onto the hope that welfare queens and the “imported” will suddenly flip to Ron Paul conservatism. It ain’t happening.
If this is addressed to me as it seems, I have no clue what you're trying to convey. You think I'm hoping welfare queens and the "imported" will suddenly flip to Ron Paul? Maybe you were drinking heavily last night?
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You’re the overeducated, unintuitive, and spoiled conservative that put us here.
You make a reasonable point here. I've suggested the same in these threads for months, that conservatives (of all ages) have become soft as frick and the bullshite we're seeing from the looney Left is as much our fault as theirs, because we're sitting around counting ammo while letting it happen. Think about it - we allowed a (literal) dementia patient, half-retarded before dementia, and full on child molester (with video censored by twitter to prove it), whose son ran a rape/pillage campaign while he was VP, who also ran his campaign from his basement - - - we let that guy win/steal the WH, and how have we responded? We've let him throw our southern border wide, wide open, crater our economy, mandate needless vaccinations, target our side using the FBI, Justice, and even the pentagon. It's breathtaking.
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It just ain’t the same between us younger conservatives and what y’all think. We’re born into defeatism and bitterness.
You were born into the most comfortable country that's ever existed. Our "hungry" are obese, our poor live better than the middle class in most of Europe, and do you ever see more than a few of us really f'n working balls out for it? It's not just conservatives that are way too fat and happy, it's the whole country. Sitting around pondering whether a person born with a dick needs to be recognized as a mom is a f'n luxury not afforded anybody but the most spoiled. It takes a lot of idle time to dream that shite up.
But that's all of us. Not just your generation. We've all had it so good for so long that we've forgotten how to look after ourselves, or that we even need to. Where you and I apparently diverge is where "defeated and bitterness" come in. I don't feel defeated, and I'm not bitter at all. I actually believe our side wins in the long run, principally because I think Americans really do believe in their rights (all of them) and there is way too much wealth in the middle class that ain't about to be redistributed. But that's the long run. Short run we'll celebrate a Virginia governorship like it changes everything for us, and then learn the same sort of lesson we're learning today with Kavanaugh and Barrett. I don't know how much of that we'll need before we truly push back, but I know that'll be further down the road if guys like you are beaten. That ain't good.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:40 pm to _Hurricane_
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I’m not interested in conceding.
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For those who want Desantis to run (because Trump can’t win AHHHH), this is for you. Desantis won’t save you or your children from what’s coming. Trump won’t either. Trump really only represents our last middle finger before the shite hits the fan. If you don’t get that by now, you are naive. I’m 22 years old and understand the situation. No one will save this country, but Trump is our historical middle finger to the world.
ETA: I might seem like an overdramatic dumbass, but, I promise you, this is how young conservatives feel. The gig is up, and we’re gonna have to pay the price. Might as well end on an ironic note.
This is emotional, sensitive and irrational thinking and not a sober and cold assessment of reality.
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I’m 22 years old
The adult brain isn't fully developed and completely mature until age 25. Let's see where you are in 3 years.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:44 pm to chryso
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Trump running in 2024 would be David Vitter all over again.
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chryso
You would know considering you voted for JBE and gave us the third worst Governor in Louisiana history, John Bel Edwards, and enabled his tyranny on the hardworking taxpayers of Louisiana and their families.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:48 pm to Vacherie Saint
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I can see a scenario where another Trump term could be the cleansing needed for DeSantis to come in and make some real change without all of the histrionic noise and constant attacks.
None of that will actually happen and matter at all if Trump can't win due to pissing so many people off with his incurable foot in mouth disease and inability to stay on message.
Do you want to bank and rely on Biden's weakness to help Trump win?
Or would you rather a strong candidate that's capable of winning on his own merits and strengths?
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:51 pm to fwtex
Yes, Desantis will.
As you accuse a 22 year old of not having any thought, I won't to point out the facts.
Here it is..... Every GOP candidate since Reagan has been a racist white guy! Labeled that by the left and the media. That is not going to change until the media changes.
Fact 2, because the media is now, more than ever, marxist leaning they will do to ANY CANDIDATE what they did to Trump.
Trump went in and exposed those that he even gave an opportunity to do what's right and they exposed themselves.
Mattis... remember him?
That list is long! Don't blame Trump because of the mess we were in.
Trump runs, and he will be the nominee
As you accuse a 22 year old of not having any thought, I won't to point out the facts.
Here it is..... Every GOP candidate since Reagan has been a racist white guy! Labeled that by the left and the media. That is not going to change until the media changes.
Fact 2, because the media is now, more than ever, marxist leaning they will do to ANY CANDIDATE what they did to Trump.
Trump went in and exposed those that he even gave an opportunity to do what's right and they exposed themselves.
Mattis... remember him?
That list is long! Don't blame Trump because of the mess we were in.
Trump runs, and he will be the nominee
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:52 pm to fwtex
Your whole theme is because the left and media will go after him, we should head a different direction.
LOL! WOW
LOL! WOW
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:05 pm to Sentrius
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None of that will actually happen and matter at all if Trump can't win due to pissing so many people off with his incurable foot in mouth disease and inability to stay on message.
So friggin sad! Man.. You are that naive.
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Do you want to bank and rely on Biden's weakness to help Trump win?
Biden will not seek re-election.
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Or would you rather a strong candidate that's capable of winning on his own merits and strengths?
I am! His name is Trump.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:09 pm to Jjdoc
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You are that naive.
He's just being honest.
Trump personally pissed off more than half the voters in this country, that's not a recipe for a win.
If the man would learn to handle public disputes like a man, I'd think more highly of him.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:36 pm to _Hurricane_
I’m sorry, you’re basically telling me let’s play Russian Roulette rather than going with the Ace in the Hole. You’re sounding exactly like the morons that told people to stay at home for the Georgia runoffs last year. You burnt the lifeboats once when the Trumptanic sank, we just got lucky two days ago that another ship happened to be coming by and saving us. It won’t this time in 2024 though. I will not have you intentionally crash the ship into an iceberg and lighting the rowboats on fire again.
If you want to blow the Orange Man, go to one of his rallies. We are internally with the Leftists and externally with the CCP in a world of shite. We need to convince actual sane liberals to join us, and the Orange Man being the candidate will off put them and make them miss the forest for the trees. DeSantis won’t do that to them. We need a fairly united country starting in 2025 and if Trump wins that’s an impossibility.
No, you don’t understand the situation. You’re just like the idiotic Left that assumes we are living in a power vacuum and nothing outside of this country is coming for us. You’re wrong. While Trump is a big step up from Biden, the problem is we need an actual uniter and not one that puts a gun to your head or you’re fired. You’re more concerned with owning the Libs rather than saving the country. People like you chose the Orange Man over this country back in January when you told Georgians to stay at home and not vote since it’s rigged. I’m not putting up with that suicidal bullshite again.
If you want to blow the Orange Man, go to one of his rallies. We are internally with the Leftists and externally with the CCP in a world of shite. We need to convince actual sane liberals to join us, and the Orange Man being the candidate will off put them and make them miss the forest for the trees. DeSantis won’t do that to them. We need a fairly united country starting in 2025 and if Trump wins that’s an impossibility.
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I’m 22 years old and understand the situation. No one will save this country, but Trump is our historical middle finger to the world.
No, you don’t understand the situation. You’re just like the idiotic Left that assumes we are living in a power vacuum and nothing outside of this country is coming for us. You’re wrong. While Trump is a big step up from Biden, the problem is we need an actual uniter and not one that puts a gun to your head or you’re fired. You’re more concerned with owning the Libs rather than saving the country. People like you chose the Orange Man over this country back in January when you told Georgians to stay at home and not vote since it’s rigged. I’m not putting up with that suicidal bullshite again.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He's just being honest.
No he isn't.
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Trump personally pissed off more than half the voters in this country, that's not a recipe for a win.
Yet he won. Makes sense.
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If the man would learn to handle public disputes like a man, I'd think more highly of him.
OR had he embraced your globalism you preached... right.
No thank you.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:39 pm to skrolnick
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This. There are more Republicucks here than I thought.
A ton of them here!
They are gathered into a block right now.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:40 pm to OMLandshark
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I’m sorry, you’re basically telling me let’s play Russian Roulette rather than going with the Ace in the Hole. You’re sounding exactly like the morons that told people to stay at home for the Georgia runoffs last year. You burnt the lifeboats once when the Trumptanic sank, we just got lucky two days ago that another ship happened to be coming by and saving us. It won’t this time in 2024 though. I will not have you intentionally crash the ship into an iceberg and lighting the rowboats on fire again.
If you want to blow the Orange Man, go to one of his rallies. We are internally with the Leftists and externally with the CCP in a world of shite. We need to convince actual sane liberals to join us, and the Orange Man being the candidate will off put them and make them miss the forest for the trees. DeSantis won’t do that to them. We need a fairly united country starting in 2025 and if Trump wins that’s an impossibility.
We are convincing them. Its you lincoln project types that are trying to undo that.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:41 pm to Jjdoc
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A ton of them here!
Luckily there aren’t more libs like Jjprog aching to vote Biden for the 4th time.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:42 pm to Jjdoc
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Its you lincoln project types that are trying to undo that.
Yeah because the guys at the Lincoln Project are such big fans of DeSantis. They campaigned against Susan Collins for God’s sake.
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