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Chromdome35
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NW Arkansas
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re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
True, but you can’t take off your mask unless you do provide proof.


Tomatocantender
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re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job


This started happening with our 1099 contractors that have renewable annual 2080 work hour-retainers with us. Pretty much threatening them that the guaranteed 1-yr signed contracts will be replaced by a "We'll call you as needed, don't call us" arrangement.

They haven't messed with us W2's yet but it's on the horizon in some form or fashion.
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pawpoints19
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San Antonio
Member since Jun 2021
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re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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No law in the United States of America requiring you to work there so look elsewhere.


Or if you want to stay and not get the vax, be ready for frequent testing and hurdles to jump over. Or if you're lucky you can work from home, maybe that's a win for you.


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AndyCBR
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Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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The ground rumor says that when the FDA approves the vaccines ...your companies are free to demand the vaccines. Refusal to take the jab ...your time becomes short.



Companies are free to make it a requirement now.

I don't see how the FDA approval changes anything. You either make it a requirement of employment, or you don't.


AndyCBR
USA Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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True, but you can’t take off your mask unless you do provide proof.




Only in states/municipalities where that is a law.

A sign on the door is not a law or a requirement to be vaccinated or disclose your vaccination status.


pawpoints19
LSU Fan
San Antonio
Member since Jun 2021
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re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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Not really, how long does it take to interview, hire, and train a new worker? Most covid cases are over well before that.


Your'e forgetting how much an employee being out of work and in the hospital costs. You do realize all of these employee health incentive plans and fitbit challenges aren't actually because they care right? It's all about profit.

It's ironic that those sympathizing with businesses not being able to hire because of unemployment benefits are anti-business profits when it comes to loses due to medical care of those unvaxxed.


Chromdome35
Arkansas Fan
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
2466 posts

re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
If the company implements an attestation policy, then you must show proof of vaccination to remove the mask. If you haven’t provided proof and you remove the mask, you can absolutely be terminated for violating the policy.

A sign on the door is not an attestation policy.
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Loup
McNeese State Fan
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
4168 posts

re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
So what? You have the right to not get vaccinated, they should have the right to not have you around.


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Tomatocantender
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re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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I don't see how the FDA approval changes anything. You either make it a requirement of employment, or you don't.


Andy, if it would become a requirement of employment, do you think a medical waiver or religious exemption could still be an out, or will they try to close the loophole on that?


jimmy the leg
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Member since Aug 2007
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re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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The key will be the legal thought when the FDA approves the vaccines and their suggestions will be followed to the letter.


This will be the case.

It will be a new world of vaccine passports, or else...





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jimmy the leg
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re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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religious exemption


Has been struck down already iirc (New Jersey?).


AndyCBR
USA Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
5140 posts

re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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It's ironic that those sympathizing with businesses not being able to hire because of unemployment benefits are anti-business profits when it comes to loses due to medical care of those unvaxxed.



First off, you seem to believe (falsely) that the vaccine cures COVID. You can, and still may get it. Additionally, you can, and may, have an adverse reaction to the vaccine.

Do you treat employees who need time off for an abortion the same way? What about someone who wants elective plastic surgery? What about the person who has a heart condition after being obese their whole life?

Mark my words, companies are treading in very dangerous waters when they start making personal health decisions for their employees.

This is like chum in the water for attorneys.



Crimson Wraith
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re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
Identify as vaxxed.


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Tomatocantender
LSU Fan
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
440 posts

re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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Has been struck down already iirc (New Jersey?).


Thanks Jimmy for the 411


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teke184
LSU Fan
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
60677 posts

re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
Get a lawyer and let them know that harassment or termination over this will be costly.


AndyCBR
USA Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
5140 posts

re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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Andy, if it would become a requirement of employment, do you think a medical waiver or religious exemption could still be an out, or will they try to close the loophole on that?



I really don't see how. Perhaps if they made it to the supreme court in a state.

The medical waiver thing is interesting though. It's been proven there are heart related side effects with some of the vaccines. If you had a pre-existing heart condition and your doctor felt it wasn't worth the risk? Who knows?

I'm no lawyer but I do know companies can't just make up policy like this on the fly.

Aside from some health care systems I am unaware of any private company who has instituted a written COVID vaccination policy.

Again, most of corporate America has no appetite for this legal can of worms. There is no money in it, only heartache.


Chromdome35
Arkansas Fan
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
2466 posts

re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
There are still valid religious exemptions available. Our company has granted several.

When someone asks for a religious exemption, it goes straight to the legal department. The decision to grant or not grant is not left up to anyone in the management chain. That's the way it is in our company. Others may vary.


MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
284 posts

re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
Get a new job. You have a right to get vaccinated but a private company has the right to require anything they want out of their employees. Luckily there are plenty of other companies to work for, especially right now with the labor shortage


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pawpoints19
LSU Fan
San Antonio
Member since Jun 2021
45 posts

re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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First off, you seem to believe (falsely) that the vaccine cures COVID. You can, and still may get it. Additionally, you can, and may, have an adverse reaction to the vaccine.


It's irrelevant how you or I feel about the efficacy of the vaccines in preventing covid hospitalization and death. Like profits and losses what will matter to corporations is facts. When it is shown that mandating vaccines improves the bottom line, that what they'll do. Free market capitalism am i right?

If another company can be profitable without the mandate then go there and good for them for doing so.


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Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
12895 posts

re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
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Your'e forgetting how much an employee being out of work and in the hospital costs. You do realize all of these employee health incentive plans and fitbit challenges aren't actually because they care right? It's all about profit.

It's ironic that those sympathizing with businesses not being able to hire because of unemployment benefits are anti-business profits when it comes to loses due to medical care of those unvaxxed.


If a job comes with health benefits, you can't bitch when those benefits are used.

Going off what you just said, you'd be for jobs offering health benefits then firing you when you tried to use them because profits?


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