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re: I'll gladly pay more in taxes to get federal healthcare for all damnit
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:00 pm to mountaintop
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:00 pm to mountaintop
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Then why is healthcare so difficult in America
Before Obamacare when I needed medical treatment, I would call the facility of choice (or set an appointment online) and be seen within a week. Show up to my appointment 5-15 minutes early as requested and be seen in a timely fashion (I always choose the 1st appts in the morning). I would typically spend less than an hour at the Dr.'s office. If therapy was needed, this would be scheduled for the next day before I left the office. If I needed some sort of test (x-ray, MRI, blood work) all done either that day or the next.
Government gets involved and I rarely get an appointment within 3 weeks unless it's an emergency or my chiropractor. All visits take at least 1 1/2-2 hours (still schedule first thing in the morning) because the doctor's need to see more patents each day. Rarely actually see the doctor, spend more time with nurses. X-rays are still same day, MRIs & blood work are usually either that week or the next. Haven't gone through PT to comment how that has changed.
I use the same doctor's and insurance company before and after Obamacare. Gov't involvement is NOT the solution.
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:00 pm to mountaintop
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I am not really a fan of big government
But I want the most big government program of them all in socialized medicine.
Do you really want your clinics and hospitals run like the DMV?
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:02 pm to mountaintop
quote:
Then why is healthcare so difficult in America
Because government is involved in it too much for it to be easy.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:03 pm to mountaintop
Move to Cuba. Michael Moore swears they have better healthcare.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:04 pm to mountaintop
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I am not really a fan of big government, but healthcare is just too complex.
The govt screws up programs so you want to give them the most complex? Naaaaahhhh.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:04 pm to mountaintop
quote:Really?
I'll gladly pay more in taxes to get federal healthcare for all damnit
How much should a surgeon be paid in that system?
Just curious.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:05 pm to mountaintop
Ever been to the VA...?
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:05 pm to mountaintop
You can send any amount of money you want to the IRS.
I’ll give you a link to the site.
IRS.gov “Make a Payment”
You’re welcome!
I’ll give you a link to the site.
IRS.gov “Make a Payment”
You’re welcome!
This post was edited on 10/16/18 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:08 pm to mountaintop
quote:Government made it that way and you want more of that?
but healthcare is just too complex.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:10 pm to mountaintop
This whole thing is a classic example of
“Too much government created a problem, so let’s fix it with more government”.
“Too much government created a problem, so let’s fix it with more government”.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:11 pm to mountaintop
If you think this Healthcare is expensive and not acceptable “wait till it’s free”.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:12 pm to mountaintop
And you really believe that's all the money they want from you. You give, they take. You refuse to give, they take anyway.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:14 pm to memphis tiger
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This whole thing is a classic example of
“Too much government created a problem, so let’s fix it with more government”.
I think the OP recognizes an issue and a possible solution. I think it's the wrong solution.
I have a friend in the UK. The NHS over there is a mess. Of course the liberals (my friend being one) will have you believe this is only because a lack of funding. She also told me that their equivalent of a General Practitioner with 5 years of post-residency experience gets paid roughly the equivalent of $75K USD.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:14 pm to mountaintop
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The American health care system is mediocre a
It is literally the best in the history of planet earth.
It can certainly be improved, but the lie of universal federal run Healthcare as a good much less a possibility is insane.
Can you name one massive program the federal government runs effectively and so efficiently that you'd trust your own health to it?
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:16 pm to mountaintop
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I'm an Independent, I am not really a fan of big government, but healthcare is just too complex
Tell that to all the Americans living in Europe who fly back suitcases of normal over the counter medicine (Tylenol,etc) that is unavailable for purchase in Europe unless your at risk of death and only if a Dr. approves.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:19 pm to mountaintop
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I am not really a fan of big government, but healthcare is just too complex.
And you think the gov can fix it??? Take a look at the VA, they have done a bang up job there.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:20 pm to mountaintop
quote:
Message I'll gladly pay more in taxes to get federal healthcare for all damnit b
The really cool thing about America is the freedom to make personal choices. No need for additional income taxes, if we could get all the Prog/Dim middle class and the wealthy Prog elites to just pony up the cash this healthcare problem is whipped. Sounds like you’re ready to write a phat check to the government this year to help fund national healthcare..., you are a true idiot...., err, patriot.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:23 pm to DallasTiger11
Then why are Bernie and millennials complaining?
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:25 pm to mountaintop
1.) American healthcare was mediocre.
Wait until the government gets ahold of it.
2.) Healthcare is just too complex.
That’s why we shouldn’t let Congrescritters like Pelosi, Schumer, Booker, Harris, and SheJack messing with it.
3.) I’m not a fan of big government
But you’re willing to give them one of the biggest controls over you.
I’ve lived in a country with socialized medicine. It made me yearn for Anerica’s “mediocre” healthcare system.
Wait until the government gets ahold of it.
2.) Healthcare is just too complex.
That’s why we shouldn’t let Congrescritters like Pelosi, Schumer, Booker, Harris, and SheJack messing with it.
3.) I’m not a fan of big government
But you’re willing to give them one of the biggest controls over you.
I’ve lived in a country with socialized medicine. It made me yearn for Anerica’s “mediocre” healthcare system.
This post was edited on 10/16/18 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 10/16/18 at 5:25 pm to mountaintop
quote:Again . . . .
There is a problem with private insurers
How much should a surgeon be paid in your system?
Just curious.
Pick a number.
We'll discuss it.
You'll learn something.
Try.
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