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re: If Trump really put this out there, I am thinking we might be in a bad bargaining position
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:09 am to Roaad
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:09 am to Roaad
I know it is heresy on this board to say anything even remotely critical about Trump
But it is becoming clear that the administration didn’t think this war through and just assumed it would be an easy victory.
It is almost like no one close to Trump had ever heard of the Straight of Hormuz and no one had the foresight to ask “what if Iran is able to block it off”
Poor planning all around and now we are stuck.
Anything but total victory is a win for Iran, radical islam, China etc.
And this country doesnt have the stomach for total victory, much less the time it takes to get it.
But it is becoming clear that the administration didn’t think this war through and just assumed it would be an easy victory.
It is almost like no one close to Trump had ever heard of the Straight of Hormuz and no one had the foresight to ask “what if Iran is able to block it off”
Poor planning all around and now we are stuck.
Anything but total victory is a win for Iran, radical islam, China etc.
And this country doesnt have the stomach for total victory, much less the time it takes to get it.
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:10 am to OccamsStubble
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...by people working three jobs in Shreveport and Toledo and Spokane...
Statistically, no one is working three jobs. No one.
How many people do you know who are working three jobs?
I know a few folks who are essentially destitute but are not on any government subsidies. They work just enough to pay their bills. If they get an extra money, they spend immediately on some toy. None of them would ever consider working two jobs, let alone three.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:10 am to Roaad
Dunno. I've been in a GREAT bargaining position before only to have a dumbass pass on the deal and bankrupt themselves. Some people just don't know how to cut their losses. Was losing his business. Bank came to me and i offered him 
$100k over what he owed. Said it was worth way more. Ok, bye. Went bankrupt and still hasn't recovered 20 years later.
Some people just have to learn the hard way. shite, have a similar situation now. Someone needs out of a bind fast. NO other options that allow them to come out with any equity. Will lose everything, but balking at $160k over payoffs. Foreclosure in 2 weeks.
This the Iranians. Take a deal or lose everything. They just don't get it.
$100k over what he owed. Said it was worth way more. Ok, bye. Went bankrupt and still hasn't recovered 20 years later. Some people just have to learn the hard way. shite, have a similar situation now. Someone needs out of a bind fast. NO other options that allow them to come out with any equity. Will lose everything, but balking at $160k over payoffs. Foreclosure in 2 weeks.
This the Iranians. Take a deal or lose everything. They just don't get it.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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If we don't remove the regime then how do we remove them being a state sponsor of terror? The same regime will be in place.
I am actually in agreement with this. I think the Iranian people have to play a role in that, with some form of support from us and Israel.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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The same regime will be in place.
at some point, the same regime will realize that playing “kill them all, let God sort’em out” with the great satan is an endeavor of fools
eventually, a wise man or group of men will succumb to “discretion is the better part of valor…”
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:18 am to Roaad
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This seems like a post from a desperate man.
Maybe it was from a staffer who misunderstood what he was supposed to post?
This is not a measured and rational thought, it is panic
Which is not just a little bit concerning.
isn't it possible, mind you i'm just spit balling here, that your occupation according to your profile of simply "being white" hasn't adequately prepared you to make these types of nuanced observations?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:19 am to Roaad
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Not a republican, so , , ,
ah, take no position so you never have to defend any and can criticize everyone at your leisure
so brave
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:20 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
100%
The ridiculousness will amplify as the weeks go by and the MAGAs move the goal posts and proclaim strength and victory.
Oh, and you’re a CUCK!!!!
The ridiculousness will amplify as the weeks go by and the MAGAs move the goal posts and proclaim strength and victory.
Oh, and you’re a CUCK!!!!
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:21 am to Roaad
quote:Do you register as an independent?
Not a republican, so , , ,
What are the advantages of that? You can’t vote in primary season, can you?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:23 am to DamnGood86
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Statistically, no one is working three jobs. No one.
How many people do you know who are working three jobs?
Me, for one, though I don't live in Shreveport or Toledo or Spokane. My share of the national debt currently sits at around $330,000.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:23 am to CharlesLSU
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CharlesLSU
one of the usual suspects
When you constantly take whatever position is anti-Trump for years why would anyone feel the need to take you seriously. You will just go away when you are wrong again.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:23 am to Roaad
quote:classy
Open the frickin' Strait
And then he praises allah? Who writes these tweets?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:24 am to Roaad
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If Trump really put this out there, I am thinking we might be in a bad bargaining position
You already thought we were in a bad bargaining position and losing to Iran anyway.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:24 am to RohanGonzales
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Not a republican, so , , ,
ah, take no position so you never have to defend any and can criticize everyone at your leisure
so brave
Reminds me of the dude with 470K posts who tries to avoid admitting that he's a lefty because "I didn't vote for Biden. I voted for Kanye."
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:24 am to GTnerd
The CIA put out false intel of all sorts about who was rescued and when. The left went batshit because Trump remained in DC -situ room.
I dont GAF anymore about gaffes. Trump gonna Trump. If Trump worries anyone, go grab a pussy hat.
Trump says some cringe AF things. Either he is trusted or not...
I dont GAF anymore about gaffes. Trump gonna Trump. If Trump worries anyone, go grab a pussy hat.
Trump says some cringe AF things. Either he is trusted or not...
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:25 am to Roaad
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This seems like a post from a desperate man.
Well, TDS makes you guys post some stupidity for sure
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:26 am to cajunangelle
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This one was to keep the enemy from seeing what the other hand was doing...
Or maybe they see right through it and no it's just noise
Probably the best way to deal with Trump if you're in a war with him is to ignore him completely
Which seems to be their strategy
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:27 am to GTnerd
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What are you talking about, everybody on the planet knew we were trying to find and rescue that pilot, Iran was out there trying to find him too you know.
Yeah, douche. But you don't realize they were distracted and thrown off the search by things this administration said and did? You fricking tard.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:28 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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I know it is heresy on this board to say anything even remotely critical about Trump
Since when? Half of you figs do it constantly, daily here.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:29 am to Roaad
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Maybe it was from a staffer who misunderstood what he was supposed to post?
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