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re: If Trump pulls out of NATO - how does Europe respond?
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:30 pm to Yaboylsu63
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:30 pm to Yaboylsu63
They'll go down the path of creating national battle assets (fighters, tanks, etc) instead of creating an integrated approach. The result will be a complex supply chian that limits the EUs overall military effectiveness. That's before any discussion on integrated C&C. In summary, it will be money spent to create a cluster frick.
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:37 pm to Yaboylsu63
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I’m fully on board with 47 scaling back and ultimately pulling out of NATO. Europe has proven to be useless for us tactically and now they are simply another form of welfare and subsidization on the US.
will never happen. I guarantee it. 1. Congress passed a law blocking it in 2023.
2. Most Americans support NATO.
3. It would severely weaken America and Trump knows it.
It’s a far-right isolationist fantasy.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:38 pm to Anemone
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Anemone
Oh this retard again
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:39 pm to Yaboylsu63
Won't pull out, all talk.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:40 pm to ninthward
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who f cares
I’m tired of my taxes allowing them to have a socialist system while all my bills increase beyond taxes.
So to answer I fricking do
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:44 pm to Yaboylsu63
When you find yourself 40T in debt, how a country or an NGO or an individual reacts to having their free money cut off shouldn’t play into the decision to cut the money off.
This post was edited on 5/4/26 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:58 pm to Yaboylsu63
They won't do anything. They will still rely on the US to bail them out if something happens.
They won't increase their defense spending. They can't. They are buried in social services for immigrants.
What they will do is talk about the betrayal by the US while doing NOTHING to improve their defense. They betrayed the US for the last 60 years not living up to the REQUIRED NATO spending.
They won't increase their defense spending. They can't. They are buried in social services for immigrants.
What they will do is talk about the betrayal by the US while doing NOTHING to improve their defense. They betrayed the US for the last 60 years not living up to the REQUIRED NATO spending.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:00 pm to Yaboylsu63
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how does Europe respond?
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:04 pm to Yaboylsu63
Europe will be forced to pay for its own defense.
There will be a lot of upset socialists.
There will be a lot of upset socialists.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:09 pm to RGT
If we leave NATO they will still have militaries that are vastly superior to Russia.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:10 pm to Yaboylsu63
Trump kicks Europe's arse to spend them more on defense, and they're already doing that.
Do you really think the US would give up Europe to communists from china or russia? I am not sure.
Btw, very interesting historical fact:
Yeltsin once begged Clinton to give Europe to Russia. Clinton refused.
YELTSIN: Bill, I received your note. All these things were discussed in incredible detail. I read it and was pleased. I still have faith in you.
I ask you for one thing. Just give Europe to Russia. The United States is not in Europe. Europe should be a European matter. Russia is half European, half Asian.
CLINTON: So you want Asia too?
YELTSIN: Of course, of course, Bill. In the end, we'll have to negotiate all this.
CLINTON: I don't think the Europeans will like it very much.
LINK
Do you really think the US would give up Europe to communists from china or russia? I am not sure.
Btw, very interesting historical fact:
Yeltsin once begged Clinton to give Europe to Russia. Clinton refused.
YELTSIN: Bill, I received your note. All these things were discussed in incredible detail. I read it and was pleased. I still have faith in you.
I ask you for one thing. Just give Europe to Russia. The United States is not in Europe. Europe should be a European matter. Russia is half European, half Asian.
CLINTON: So you want Asia too?
YELTSIN: Of course, of course, Bill. In the end, we'll have to negotiate all this.
CLINTON: I don't think the Europeans will like it very much.
LINK
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:13 pm to Yaboylsu63
He will not pull out of NATO. But Europe will have to live with it if it happens. I will say these European leaders Meloni, Merz and the fake leader Kaja Kallas just cannot resist the temptation to bad mouth the US. And that is ill advised when we are actively navigating a shooting type war. These European leaders are all progressive now (Meloni??) in that they have TDS and just can't resist the temptation to chime in. Many Europeans have at our expense since WWII built up an air of superiority. I think from a link in a topic on Poli, I listened to some British guy on a discussion panel just rail about all that is wrong with the US. It pissed me off.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:14 pm to RFK
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2. Most Americans support NATO.
By the slimmest of margins and support is constantly dropping.
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3. It would severely weaken America and Trump knows it.
Gonna have to explain that...in detail
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It’s a far-right isolationist fantasy.
Judging by Pew research, it is moderates who are unfavorable as well. Good try to use "far-right" in a derogatory fashion.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:14 pm to Yaboylsu63
We ARE Nato. There is no NATO without us.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:16 pm to Yaboylsu63
Like this:
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:19 pm to Yaboylsu63
The next democratic admin whenever they make it back to the WH will put US back in NATO and back at the high spending support limits that we were pre Trump, and rest of NATO will scale back their spending and let US foot the bill. 
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:21 pm to Rza32
Will Trump as a great businessman give up this rich market of 300.000 000 Europeans for favor of communists?
I am not sure USA will do this.
This is not why the Americans shed their blood in the WWII, defending Europe, for just to give up it to the neo-national socialists and communists now.
(The russian shills on this board may be unhappy right now, as they are so desperate to tear us apart)
I am not sure USA will do this.
This is not why the Americans shed their blood in the WWII, defending Europe, for just to give up it to the neo-national socialists and communists now.
(The russian shills on this board may be unhappy right now, as they are so desperate to tear us apart)
This post was edited on 5/4/26 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:32 pm to LLeD
i wish tigerdroppings had a poster that could speak on Trump pulling out of things.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:45 pm to CastleBravo
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There will be a lot of upset socialists.
No, they will be happy if the US would leave, since they are on the payroll of xi and putin.
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