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re: If Trump pulls out of NATO - how does Europe respond?

Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1994 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:30 pm to
They'll go down the path of creating national battle assets (fighters, tanks, etc) instead of creating an integrated approach. The result will be a complex supply chian that limits the EUs overall military effectiveness. That's before any discussion on integrated C&C. In summary, it will be money spent to create a cluster frick.

Rodo
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
3310 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:37 pm to
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I’m fully on board with 47 scaling back and ultimately pulling out of NATO. Europe has proven to be useless for us tactically and now they are simply another form of welfare and subsidization on the US.
will never happen. I guarantee it.

1. Congress passed a law blocking it in 2023.

2. Most Americans support NATO.

3. It would severely weaken America and Trump knows it.

It’s a far-right isolationist fantasy.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
4162 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:38 pm to
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Anemone


Oh this retard again
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4637 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:39 pm to
Won't pull out, all talk.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
4162 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:40 pm to
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who f cares


I’m tired of my taxes allowing them to have a socialist system while all my bills increase beyond taxes.

So to answer I fricking do
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10307 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:44 pm to
When you find yourself 40T in debt, how a country or an NGO or an individual reacts to having their free money cut off shouldn’t play into the decision to cut the money off.
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Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41660 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:58 pm to
They won't do anything. They will still rely on the US to bail them out if something happens.

They won't increase their defense spending. They can't. They are buried in social services for immigrants.

What they will do is talk about the betrayal by the US while doing NOTHING to improve their defense. They betrayed the US for the last 60 years not living up to the REQUIRED NATO spending.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26052 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:00 pm to
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how does Europe respond?
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1981 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:04 pm to
Europe will be forced to pay for its own defense.

There will be a lot of upset socialists.
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
2006 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:09 pm to
If we leave NATO they will still have militaries that are vastly superior to Russia.
Posted by LLeD
Member since Apr 2026
586 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24330 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:13 pm to
He will not pull out of NATO. But Europe will have to live with it if it happens. I will say these European leaders Meloni, Merz and the fake leader Kaja Kallas just cannot resist the temptation to bad mouth the US. And that is ill advised when we are actively navigating a shooting type war. These European leaders are all progressive now (Meloni??) in that they have TDS and just can't resist the temptation to chime in. Many Europeans have at our expense since WWII built up an air of superiority. I think from a link in a topic on Poli, I listened to some British guy on a discussion panel just rail about all that is wrong with the US. It pissed me off.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6436 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:14 pm to
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2. Most Americans support NATO.

By the slimmest of margins and support is constantly dropping.
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3. It would severely weaken America and Trump knows it.

Gonna have to explain that...in detail
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It’s a far-right isolationist fantasy.

Judging by Pew research, it is moderates who are unfavorable as well. Good try to use "far-right" in a derogatory fashion.
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
1771 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:14 pm to
We ARE Nato. There is no NATO without us.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
26959 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:16 pm to
Like this:

Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
5123 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:19 pm to
The next democratic admin whenever they make it back to the WH will put US back in NATO and back at the high spending support limits that we were pre Trump, and rest of NATO will scale back their spending and let US foot the bill.
Posted by LLeD
Member since Apr 2026
586 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:21 pm to
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Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179519 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:32 pm to
i wish tigerdroppings had a poster that could speak on Trump pulling out of things.
Posted by LLeD
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:45 pm to
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Posted by BeefSupreme
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:47 pm to
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