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re: If Trump pardons Edward Gallagher, I am done supporting him.

Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Blueprint
Member since Apr 2018
2069 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:39 pm to
Oh, they ALL say that? As soon as the word all comes up in an argument, I stop listening.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:43 pm to
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So what?! Some SEALs believe we should follow the Geneva Convention and some don’t. ISIS shows no mercy. We show no mercy.
lol. Jesus. I'll take that as a "no."

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The only questionable example you gave was the girl he shot but would still need way more details.
Oh that's the only "questionable" action alleged by his teammates under Geneva and other Laws of Armed Conflict, the UCMJ, and standing rules of engagement?

And there's supposed to be a trial. Its point is to establish the facts "or details" of the accusations.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56555 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:46 pm to
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Voting for a socialist because of a pardon. How brave and principled of you



Exactly.

At the end of the day, anyone who could support socialism (or worse) because they disagree with a presidential pardon is flat out dumb.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:48 pm to
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Well in that case a criminal conviction would inappropriate. Right?
That's cute. I should've written psychopathic. Feel better?

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But there is the little detail of ongoing judicial misconduct as well.


So address it. If the proceedings need to start from scratch, so be it.

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It is a cut-and-dry case, right? The guys who were in his unit, and deployed with him all bear witness to his crimes, right?
Unless the men in his unit are just lying (and consistently telling the same lies) or he can established some diminished capacity, it looks pretty cut and dry. But, again, that's for a trial to establish.

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Oh, but I am told Trump might be empathetic to the spying thingy too.
Who gives a shite.
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1871 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:51 pm to
You’re a fool.

Guy needs a pardon so idiots like you don’t ruin his life in a jury trial.

And yea I’ve been to War. It’s ugly AF. And until you’ve seen it, shut your fricking mouth with your vacuumed perspective.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:52 pm to
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2 malcontents
Might want to do a recount on those accusers, pal.

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More than anything, 2 people decide if you're going to get promoted,the SMC and the Lt, not surprisingly the two men that were accused.
Can't believe every platoon leader and chief aren't constantly facing heinous accusations like these.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140565 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:52 pm to
That's true but still hurts the overall goal.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:53 pm to
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march ua closer to socialism, curbing 2a rights, third wave feminism and 


Medicare for all, options

Less automatic weapons. Yep

Don't know your dog whistle attempt at controlling women (3rd what?).
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30201 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:54 pm to
Beat it, whether he does or not.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 3:56 pm
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1871 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:54 pm to
Obama’s War crimes far out pace Gallagher’s.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:54 pm to
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You’re a fool.

Guy needs a pardon so idiots like you don’t ruin his life in a jury trial.



Woah....do you have more facts than the rest of us?

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And yea I’ve been to War. It’s ugly AF.


thanks for your service

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And until you’ve seen it, shut your fricking mouth with your vacuumed perspective.


You pathetic a-hole. Perhaps you should learn some civics lessons about the nation you presumably 'been to war' for.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:54 pm to
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And yea I’ve been to War. It’s ugly AF.
I totally believe you.

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And until you’ve seen it, shut your fricking mouth with your vacuumed perspective.
What qualifies as "seeing it?" I've certainly "been to war," legally speaking. Never got shot at, though.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8008 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:54 pm to
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OP, ever been to War?



I have.

If Gallagher actually did what he's alleged to have done, he ought to rot in a cell for a very long time.

Seven other SEALs spoke up against this dude at great risk to their reputations and careers. That speaks volumes.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13423 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:55 pm to
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Oh, they ALL say that? As soon as the word all comes up in an argument, I stop listening.


I thought the same thing.

I read it was two guys with an axe to grind against him for being a hard arse, and they lazy asses. Let the rest of the platoon speak see what happens.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17047 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:57 pm to
This has nothing to do with Gallagher, but still sounds pretty bad arse.

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Rear Adm. Hugh Wyman Howard III (left), the commander of the Red Squadron, gave his officers a 14-inch hatchet (like the one on the right) as a way to boost the unit's 'Native American warrior ethos'. SEAL Team members allege they were used to hack at insurgents' corpses




Sounds like Galllagher wasn't the only SEAL being "naughty" over there. Even Rear Admirals were giving the green light.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28419 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:58 pm to
Cuck
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1871 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:59 pm to
Seeing it means seeing the true atrocities associated with war and what specifically led to those atrocities. shite happens quick in a country where every one hates you and half of them have the potential to kill you at any given moment.

Let me tell you this, ISIS ain’t punishing any of their “soldiers”.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50545 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 4:00 pm to
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there is some talk about Trump pardoning him


Where are you seeing this talk? I hadn't heard of this guy till this thread.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78700 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 4:01 pm to
I know I will miss you.
This is me waving goodbye .
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4473 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 4:04 pm to
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All Chief Gallagher's fellow SEALs (as in the guys who were in his unit and deployed with him) say the guy was a psychotic PoS, but if you don't support him, you just don't understand warfare and are un-American. Trump knows his audience.


I defer to the other SEAL team members for Gallagher's character.

I do not recall your anger for Obama basically pardoning Bergdahl and trading 5 Taliban commanders in exchange for his release, the circus show in the rose garden with his parents, etc. But just as you say about Trump, Obama knew his audience back then too. Why would this be any different?
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