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re: If trump and musk cut social security
Posted on 2/21/25 at 1:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/21/25 at 1:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
Polls fwiw
Despite other political divides, Americans overwhelmingly agree that the government shouldn’t run up the debt.
A 2023 poll revealed that 4 in 5 Americans support a constitutional amendment requiring the federal government to balance its budget within 10 years. Americans for Prosperity
Kurt Couchman
Ensuring Congress can respond to crises: Any amendment must include provisions for emergencies, such as recessions, wars, or pandemics. Emergency spending thresholds, like the two-thirds vote requirement in some proposals, can ensure flexibility while maintaining fiscal discipline.
Having a realistic timeline: Achieving the savings needed to reach a balanced budget will take time to phase in. A 10-year path to balance after ratification is most realistic.
A principled vision: The language of an amendment should rely on broad constitutional principles, ensuring the details can adapt to a changing society over time.
Trump should have a televised debate
Each side gets 15 minutes
Followed by a non binding National referedum
Can't hurt. Any other ideas out there?
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As Congress continues its habit of deficit spending, voters overwhelmingly prefer a balanced federal budget, but most have lost hope that it will happen in their lifetime.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 67% of Likely U.S. Voters believe it would be good for the economy if the federal budget was balanced. Only nine percent (9%) say it would be bad for the economy instead, while 12% say a balanced budget would have no impact. Another 12% are not sure. These findings are barely changed from 2021
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Even though no major politician has made balancing the budget a key issue, the American people are rapidly shifting toward a belief that the budget should be balanced. A recent poll we sponsored at The American Majority Project, conducted by Mclaughlin & Associates, reported that 70% of Americans favor a constitutional amendment to balance the budget. Only 13% oppose it.
Despite other political divides, Americans overwhelmingly agree that the government shouldn’t run up the debt.
A 2023 poll revealed that 4 in 5 Americans support a constitutional amendment requiring the federal government to balance its budget within 10 years. Americans for Prosperity
Kurt Couchman
Ensuring Congress can respond to crises: Any amendment must include provisions for emergencies, such as recessions, wars, or pandemics. Emergency spending thresholds, like the two-thirds vote requirement in some proposals, can ensure flexibility while maintaining fiscal discipline.
Having a realistic timeline: Achieving the savings needed to reach a balanced budget will take time to phase in. A 10-year path to balance after ratification is most realistic.
A principled vision: The language of an amendment should rely on broad constitutional principles, ensuring the details can adapt to a changing society over time.
Trump should have a televised debate
Each side gets 15 minutes
Followed by a non binding National referedum
Can't hurt. Any other ideas out there?
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 1:59 pm to tigeraddict
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f the Mandatory spending, what percentage of that is waste/Fraud?
That was incorporated in the napkin math
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Add in the $236B in waste (which give a double benefit to the reduction as it accounts for lots of waste in the non-discretionary and half military budgets)
Posted on 2/21/25 at 2:24 pm to Yaboylsu63
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They have repeatedly said SS won’t be cut.. just cleaned of fraud and waste.
Why that is controversial to anyone is utterly insane to me?
Because the Trump admin is lying to you like they do every single day.
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“You know Social Security is wrong, you know Medicare and Medicaid is wrong, so he's going to cut one trillion,” Lutnick added. “Get rid of all these tax scams that hammer against Americans and we’re gonna raise a trillion dollars in revenue, and our objective, under Donald Trump, is to balance this budget.”
Posted on 2/21/25 at 2:35 pm to Scoper
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Republicans will lose the next generation of elections. They'll be lucky to hold onto the reddest of red states
They are talking about increasing the amount being paid out to people of retirement age.
I don't think that will affect the way voters vote, in the way you are thinking it will.
And they are talking about making sure that illegals, and dead people are no longer getting paid.
Again, something red voters will approve of.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 2:36 pm to Scoper
They’re not going to cut SS for anyone that should be getting it.
Now, for all of those suspect numbers and people each one needs to be investigated and if it’s fraud whoever has been receiving the money needs to get charged.
Now, for all of those suspect numbers and people each one needs to be investigated and if it’s fraud whoever has been receiving the money needs to get charged.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 2:38 pm to jclem11
Will you self ban if nothing happens to precious entitlement programs, Yankee?
Posted on 2/21/25 at 2:39 pm to jclem11
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Because the Trump admin is lying to you like they do every single day.
Biden is as fit as hes ever been
Posted on 2/21/25 at 2:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Which shows they arent serious about cuts.
You are so right Roger.
We should have voted Kamala.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 2:41 pm to dgnx6
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You are so right Roger.
We should have voted Kamala.
What a retarded stance.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 2:54 pm to roadGator
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Will you self ban if nothing happens to precious entitlement programs, Yankee?
How are you defining "nothing happens"?
But nah I won't self ban. lmao.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 2:55 pm to Wolfwireless
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They are talking about increasing the amount being paid out to people of retirement age.
I don't think that will affect the way voters vote, in the way you are thinking it will.
Its going to hurt those not retired and paying for it.
I'm not there yet, but close and I realize it needs overhaul.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 2:59 pm to jclem11
For the last sixty-five years dems have been lying and saying the Repubs will cut medicare and social security. What will bnkrupt both are fradulent cliams which the dems have done nothing about. The only people who will be cut are those who do not legally qualify to receive those benefits and most of those are illegal aliens.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:01 pm to Codythetiger
Woo that’s a quality melt right there ??
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:07 pm to Smokeyone
quote:Anyone with a brain would rather handle the money themselves.
The boomers are the last generation expected to get social security. And they are almost gone. The next generations would rather handle the money themselves.
No one will be given that opportunity. SS is not going away as long as the US is deep in debt. Your post implies retirees are the beneficiaries of SS. They are not. Uncle Sam is the sole beneficiary. SS is an obligatory loan supplied by US workers to Uncle Sam, on Uncle Sam's terms. He determines both how much he will borrow, the timeframe he will borrow it, and the ROI he will provide.
Your obligatory contributions to SS will increase, not decrease.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:38 pm to Scoper
If Trump and Elon, kill, er, take away, um don't allow puppies,...allow green cards ah we will lose, something bad.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:48 pm to winkchance
If anything SS pay out will increase and SS payments will decrease because all the fraud and wasted pay outs to the “dead”/illegals will be eradicated.
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:49 pm to Scoper
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Scoper
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:57 pm to Codythetiger
Seek help.
Please don’t procreate.
Thank you.
Please don’t procreate.
Thank you.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 4:06 pm to jclem11
Too bad. DU would love to have you.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 4:08 pm to Scoper
Only thing being cut from SS is the fraud.
Why are you sky screaming over doing away with rampant fraud?
Why are you sky screaming over doing away with rampant fraud?
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