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re: If people start having serious long term side effects from the vaccine
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:42 am to Icansee4miles
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:42 am to Icansee4miles
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Then explain why the jab mandate only applies to those employed and NOT the huge percentage of Americans living for free off the government, nor the hordes of illegal aliens pouring across our Southern border. Why not require a job to continue receiving a check? Why not jab everyone before they get on their buses and planes to be dumped in the red states? It’s massive hypocrisy, it has nothing to do with safety, it’s 100% about money and control.
I agree with this btw. Massive, typical hypocrisy.
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:05 am to TigerAxeOK
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No they won't deny it because they won't have to. They'll just say "We made the best recommendation based on what we knew at the time".
People will be pissed, saying, "but you forced us to take this vaccine!!!"
But the govt has that covered too:
"We never forced anyone. We just strongly recommended".
"Employers mandated the vaccine, not us. Our executive order wasn't legally binding".
"Oh your employer forced you to take it? No, they didn't... they gave you the option to retain employment by taking it, or be terminated for not taking it. The choice was yours".
This.
We may be at a point where so many businesses are mandating it that to allow lawsuits would be to kill our economy. "Too big to fail" once again, but in a slightly different form.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:05 am to Jax-Tiger
It's not IF, It's WHEN!
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:09 am to Jax-Tiger
It will be Trump’s fault
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:10 am to The Levee
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Oh I’m sorry…..the actual number is 2.59 Billion people. 6,000 potential deaths. That’s like 0.00000000000000019%
You’re too stupid to post here. Stfu
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:13 am to The Levee
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6,000 potential deaths.
Yet it seems every other person on this site knows 2-3 people on this site who died from the vaccine. Could it be a lot of people here are so against this vaccine that they are making shite up?
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:15 am to mouton
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Could it be a lot of people here are so against this vaccine that they are making shite up?
Yes.
And then there’s people like you who are pretending that there’s no possible way that there could ever be long-term side effects.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:40 am to the808bass
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And then there’s people like you who are pretending that there’s no possible way that there could ever be long-term side effects.
Nope. I’m just not acting like they are inevitable like so many here.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 8:01 am to Lightning
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“In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary
This.
My wife is a nurse who coordinated clinical trials for 25 years. She had an adverse reaction to a flu shot years ago, and called up the doctor's office to report it so they could report it to VAERS. They flat out told her that they don't partcipate in VAERS reporting. I'm sure that this is not an isolated incident.
My wife is holding off on the vaccine, because she believes that something is not right with this new vaccine. The dishonesty about the disease, the treatments, the coverups of vaccine injuries, the forced mandates, etc, all reek of desperation.
After being in the clinical trial system for so long, she got out. She doesn't trust it and she believes that big pharma funds the trials and gets the results that they want to get.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 8:20 am to Jax-Tiger
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Let's say that 2, 3, or 4 years down the road, vaccinated people start having a sharp increase in cancer, neurological disorders, auto-immune disorders, strokes/heart attacks, and other fatal or crippling health issues, will our government admit they made a mistake?
Legit question - why do you think 2, 3, or 4 years down the road people are going to start having any of these issues? What, specifically, is leading you to believe this could happen? Do you have a study of some other vaccine that this has happened with? Remember, you're talking about long term side effects....
Posted on 9/28/21 at 8:57 am to kennypowers
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Legit question - why do you think 2, 3, or 4 years down the road people are going to start having any of these issues? What, specifically, is leading you to believe this could happen? Do you have a study of some other vaccine that this has happened with? Remember, you're talking about long term side effects...
Wishful thinking. We have people on this site literally rooting for people to have adverse reactions.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 8:59 am to mouton
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Nope. I’m just not acting like they are inevitable like so many here.
This is a lie.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 9:14 am to kennypowers
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Legit question - why do you think 2, 3, or 4 years down the road people are going to start having any of these issues? What, specifically, is leading you to believe this could happen? Do you have a study of some other vaccine that this has happened with? Remember, you're talking about long term side effects....
I have as much knowledge about the long term effects as you do, which is to say, not much. Nobody knows. It's all one big clinical trial, and we have to wait a few years to get the results.
As I mentioned above, my wife spent over 25 years doing clinical trials for new drugs and long term effects for approved drugs. She has participated in studies that show that drugs that were the "gold standard" for treatment were killing more people than they were saving. CAST is one example of a study she participated in. The drugs did indeed, reduce the chance of heart attacks for patients, but it increased the likelihood of having a fatal stroke by even more. The drug was pulled amid a lot of controversy. What right did they have to interfere in the profits of pharmaceutical companies?
So, to answer your question, I have no evidence that there will be long-term side effects. What I do know:
1) Vaccine injuries are not being reported accurately, and that should concern all of us.
2) The vaccine was rushed to market and nobody knows the long term effects
3) Our government has a long history of lying to us about health issues (tobacco, vaccines, syphilis/LSD trials, etc), and the lies and obfuscation have continued with this virus and vaccine. How do we know they are telling the complete truth?
4) Every single thing we are told is part of a narrative to influence us to get the vaccine. Anything that would counter that effort is being suppressed. Why? More people would get the vaccine if they could trust what our government representatives say.
5) Finally, this virus is 99.5% survivable. The biggest lie of all is that we needed to hamstring our economy for a year and a half to get through this. Maybe we made the wrong decision, and folks should have come out to say, "Hey, we should have handled it differently." But nobody is doing that. Everyone is doubling down on stupid decisions. Why? Money and Power. See who benefited.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 9:22 am to the808bass
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This is a lie.
What is a lie?
Posted on 9/28/21 at 9:27 am to Jax-Tiger
The government, media, and their allies have acted in such a way, from the beginning of all of this, that leaves them no way to walk it back. That’s why it keeps escalating, and it’s why we are on the brink of loss of freedom that no one (except for the people who planned it, if anyone did) could have predicted before this pandemic.
I don’t know if they wanted to be in this position or not, but they used this virus for political purposes, and now we are all stuck with the results of that.
If I didn’t refuse to live in fear, I would be very afraid right now.
I don’t know if they wanted to be in this position or not, but they used this virus for political purposes, and now we are all stuck with the results of that.
If I didn’t refuse to live in fear, I would be very afraid right now.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 9:29 am to Jax-Tiger
"If" is a pretty important word there.
While I suppose there is some non-zero chance there will be some long term negative side effects of the mRNA vaccines, my feeling (non-expert) is that such effects will not happen or will be rare and/or minor when they do.
I would guess the effects would be more on the order of earlier onset of arthritis, Chrohn's and other auto-immune disorders.
The J&J vaccine, created in a manner similar to many earlier vaccines, almost certainly will not have such effects as 70 years of those vaccines (dead or weakened viruses) have had very few.
While I suppose there is some non-zero chance there will be some long term negative side effects of the mRNA vaccines, my feeling (non-expert) is that such effects will not happen or will be rare and/or minor when they do.
I would guess the effects would be more on the order of earlier onset of arthritis, Chrohn's and other auto-immune disorders.
The J&J vaccine, created in a manner similar to many earlier vaccines, almost certainly will not have such effects as 70 years of those vaccines (dead or weakened viruses) have had very few.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 9:30 am to Jax-Tiger
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The biggest lie of all is that we needed to hamstring our economy for a year and a half to get through this. Maybe we made the wrong decision, and folks should have come out to say, "Hey, we should have handled it differently
Very solid post.
I think you’re being optimistic thinking we just hamstrung the economy for awhile. I think we have torpedoed the future to some extent. Obviously, some good things can happen to change things, so let’s hope for that.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 9:36 am to mouton
The part I quoted.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 9:45 am to mouton
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Nope. I’m just not acting like they are inevitable like so many here.
Many Drs have spoken out about micro clotting which will result in myocarditis which
has a 66% fatality rate in 5 years.
Those videos have been posted here. You automatically discredit those reports.
Attack the source. Ridicule it.
DU 101.
Then you pretend to be open minded and the only reasonable person here.
Absurd.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 9:45 am to the808bass
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The part I quoted.
So many people on this board are not acting like long term adverse effects are inevitable? Or is that you are trying to claim I have set it is not possible for there to be long term effects?
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