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re: If I’m supposed to trust the science, show me data on climate change and China virus

Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:35 am to
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
7989 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:35 am to
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folks truly interested in following the climate change should log on to the Whats Up With That site. over the years they have tended to provide facts rather than opinion.


Excellent site.

My favorite occurrence in this charade.

The NOAA was found to have manipulated data, then admitted to having done so. One of the brilliant prostitutes, a Scientist, had published a "Peer reviewed paper, supporting the theory of Global Warming caused by man. When confronted by a young up and coming journalist over the recent discovery of manipulated data. The scientist retorted ..."Don't blame me I didn't collect the data."

If you didn't collect any data, what in the hell are you writing a paper about?

Every paper out of the Paris Accord is "Peer reviewed" by 5 scientists. Five hand selected scientists that od not allow any papers that dispute the theory. In fact, the GodFather of the CO2 theory recanted and states that it is Methane gas that threatens the atmosphere, not CO2. The problem with the hijacking of that theory? These idiots believe cow farts pollute the atmosphere, thus cows must be exterminated. That entire theory states that huge pockets of methane are trapped beneath the ocean floor, when a seismic event takes place and releases that methane. tons of gas can be released in an instant and overwhelm the atmosphere's capability to absorb massive amounts, causing an immediate warming in that location. Methane has a saturation ceiling, what is not absorbs eventually cools and falls back to ocean surface ....

The entire scheme is just a money grabbing con of the UN. If a Republican President gets elected in the next cycle, surround the UN with Marines and bus all the idiots back to their homes .....by the way, even with the windows rolled up .....buses are not submarines.
Posted by NSWDevgru
Member since Jan 2021
43 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:35 am to
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I don’t want graphs that strategically start at a low point and in at a strategically high apex. I want the full set of data.



Nobody owes you anything. This attitude is the source of all your problems. No offense, but you're a simpleton arse rube. If you don't understand science, its no one's job to hold your hand and walk you through it. The modern conservative is just a butthurt entitled hillbilly claiming that covid is fake and climate change is fake and court proceedings are fake, no one can make you believe that covid is real. You are, by definition, willingly ignorant. Anti intellectual redneck morons.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 9:36 am
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:36 am to
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If it makes you feel better we've been having this issue for over 100 years in this country and we're still surviving.


Not for long. See, since people doubted the Commie Science®, more measures will have to be put in place.

New York IS, in fact, 6' under water, as Al Gore predicted. But, visitors to New York don't understand this fact because they're racist. Their racism prevents them from drowning or even getting their feet wet.

There ARE 57 genders, despite the fact that there are only two kinds of genitals. If you don't believe this Commie Science®, you're a bigot.

Economics is close to a science, only barely not a science by the virtue that it is much more difficult to model mathematically. However, minimum wages, universal incomes, universal health care, indefinite deficits, and kickbacks to politically connected bastards are economically GOOD for America. Trust the Commie Science®.



Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
8398 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:36 am to
The ego and naivete it takes to think humans can control the climate is astounding.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10111 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:40 am to
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The problem with science as it relates to human perception is that, as it progresses, it tends to slowly encroach upon and violate many of our sacredly held political/social/religious/etc. beliefs. That means that both those conducting the investigations (ie the scientists) and those receiving and evaluating their findings often have a vested interest in NOT agreeing with what the data shows. This leaves open both the possibility of internal corruption, and (much more commonly) external defense mechanisms by the population at large to disprove uncomfortable realities. This is made even worse by the fact that the vast majority of people are entirely unqualified by their academic/knowledge background to even intelligently evaluate any given claim to begin with, regardless of how they feel about it. The number of people actually qualified to assess the nuance of the climate change debate, for instance, is exceedingly small relative to the number of people who attempt to speak definitively on the matter.



That's the beautiful thing about the Scientific Method.

I don't need to know shite about your Hypothesis, the math you used, or the crazy technology involved.

Lets just call all of that unnecessary academic stuff "Magic".

All I need to know for me to acknowledge that your hypothesis has some validity is that you made a prediction and your prediction panned out.

Now cast your spell and let me see proof that you can do what you say.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11670 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:49 am to
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The ego and naivete it takes to think humans can control the climate is astounding.


No the ego and naivete to think humans can model such a complex system with no uncertainty is astounding. You don't even have to take it as far as you did.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
7989 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:53 am to
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Nobody owes you anything.


30 posts and the best you can do is a wet fart running down your leg.

Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:55 am to
It's like trying to explain evolution to a young earth creationist or astronomy to a flat earther. It's just not possible to convince someone who is so deeply attached to their beliefs. Nobody's going to change anyone's opinions.

And unfortunately a lot of this stuff takes so much prerequisite knowledge to explain and discuss properly, but people without it will do "research" and think they don't need it, when that research is just YouTube channels and internet sites that agree with what they want to think.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 9:58 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:09 am to
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:11 am to
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Nobody owes you anything. This attitude is the source of all your problems. No offense, but you're a simpleton arse rube. If you don't understand science, its no one's job to hold your hand and walk you through it. The modern conservative is just a butthurt entitled hillbilly claiming that covid is fake and climate change is fake and court proceedings are fake, no one can make you believe that covid is real. You are, by definition, willingly ignorant. Anti intellectual redneck morons.



frick you, you racist son of a bitch
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3394 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:37 am to
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And "trust the science" is a purely political term.


I agree and I would add this..

It a phrase that immediately implies if you doubt what they are saying then you are being unscientific..

It essentially puts the hearer in a defensive posture when no supporting info has been provided to refute..
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7468 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:24 am to
Look for it yourself, clown.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20856 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:50 am to
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The modern conservative is just a butthurt entitled hillbilly claiming that covid is fake

The modern liberal is an utter retard that's such a pussy he cannot handle someone challenging what CNN and a politician like Fauci told him to believe. I have not seen a single person argue that COVID is a fake virus. Everyone understands it's a virus, and a deadly one at that. What's fake is all the bullshite the Left has heaped onto the country/world involving COVID.

So how about you explain to all of us how a guy who puts a bullet in his own head because his business went under is a legit COVID death because he tested positive for the virus two weeks ago (though he never exhibited symptoms). You're either a retard that believes putting that death in the COVID column is "science," or you actually agree with all the "redneck morons" that understand the whole virus shitshow is 80% politics and 20% a medical emergency.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4090 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:25 am to
No offense but no one gives a shite what you think. I understand science better than the general public vastly made up of idiots like you who lack reading comprehension. The modern liberal is just a cuck who prefers someone else satisfy their woman because they are too lazy to do it themselves. Interestingly, the try to all look different yet they all look very similar with their dress and hair styles.

My post was about showing me the scientific data. Not just ignorantly believing what’s being told to me or lied to me. Next time your woman is in the mood, I’ll let you watch me. Just don’t start asking for me to please you too.
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