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re: If Healthcare Vote is Why Boelter Shot Rep. Hortman, Why Did He Shoot Sen. Hoffman?
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:21 pm to jorconalx
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:21 pm to jorconalx
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Dude is a quack. Go back to chasing that extinct bird. fricking retard
Are you EVER right about me? If the Ivorybill is extinct, why did the Feds remove their proposal to declare the species extinct?
As for the issue at hand, why were they both shot "because they voted against Democrats" when one of them didn't?
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:10 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Summing up on this, I finally found an article which shows that Collin Rugg was way off base in speculating that Hortman was killed because of her vote:
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Just hours after Minnesotans learned that Democratic House leader Melissa Hortman had been assassinated, right-wing influencer Collin Rugg, who has 1.8 million followers on X, posted a “report” that hinted that she’d been killed because of a recent vote on ending undocumented adults’ ability to enroll in MinnesotaCare, a subsidized health insurance for the working poor.
Mike Cernovich, another right-wing influencer who has 1.4 million followers on X, took Rugg’s post and amped it up, but in the “just asking questions” style of many conspiracy theories:
“Did Tim Walz have her executed to send a message?”
They were deeply ignorant about the MinnesotaCare issue.
Walz and Hortman — who was instrumental in passing legislation allowing undocumented people to sign up for MinnesotaCare as speaker of the House in 2023 — negotiated a compromise with Republicans in the Minnesota Legislature to end eligibility for adults, but keep it for children. They did so to win necessary Republican support in the 67-67 House to pass a state budget. Without it, state government would have shut down on July 1.
Both Hortman and Walz signed the compromise agreement in mid-May. This week, Hortman spoke tearfully about how difficult the vote was for her, but she was bound to vote yes on the issue because of the prior agreement.
The “theory” of Hortman’s killing was further undercut by the vote of Democratic Sen. John Hoffman — who was also targeted by the suspect — against rolling back MinnesotaCare for undocumented Minnesotans.
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The article:
Voting as Motive for Shooting is Nonsense
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Just hours after Minnesotans learned that Democratic House leader Melissa Hortman had been assassinated, right-wing influencer Collin Rugg, who has 1.8 million followers on X, posted a “report” that hinted that she’d been killed because of a recent vote on ending undocumented adults’ ability to enroll in MinnesotaCare, a subsidized health insurance for the working poor.
Mike Cernovich, another right-wing influencer who has 1.4 million followers on X, took Rugg’s post and amped it up, but in the “just asking questions” style of many conspiracy theories:
“Did Tim Walz have her executed to send a message?”
They were deeply ignorant about the MinnesotaCare issue.
Walz and Hortman — who was instrumental in passing legislation allowing undocumented people to sign up for MinnesotaCare as speaker of the House in 2023 — negotiated a compromise with Republicans in the Minnesota Legislature to end eligibility for adults, but keep it for children. They did so to win necessary Republican support in the 67-67 House to pass a state budget. Without it, state government would have shut down on July 1.
Both Hortman and Walz signed the compromise agreement in mid-May. This week, Hortman spoke tearfully about how difficult the vote was for her, but she was bound to vote yes on the issue because of the prior agreement.
The “theory” of Hortman’s killing was further undercut by the vote of Democratic Sen. John Hoffman — who was also targeted by the suspect — against rolling back MinnesotaCare for undocumented Minnesotans.
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The article:
Voting as Motive for Shooting is Nonsense
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:12 pm to IvoryBillMatt
You and sfp love defending lefties 
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:16 pm to IvoryBillMatt
As to WHY Boelter shot the Democrats, I don't know. I'm even open to the idea that this was a false flag along the lines in the George Webb video posted above by Richelieu.
I am convinced, however, that the "executed because of her vote" theory was wrong.
I am convinced, however, that the "executed because of her vote" theory was wrong.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:19 pm to SDVTiger
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You and sfp love defending lefties
Very little evidence the shooter was a lefty.
Lots of evidence he was not.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:33 pm to UncleFestersLegs
Pro abortion so Republican
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What politics would you associate with a person if I told you he was: Anti-abortion Anti-trans Evangelical Christian
JBE?
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:51 pm to jimmy the leg
JBE is a Catholic
Most of the moderate DEMs people keep trying to post are Catholics.
The Evangelical Christian part is the biggest stratification tool of the 3
Most of the moderate DEMs people keep trying to post are Catholics.
The Evangelical Christian part is the biggest stratification tool of the 3
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Very little evidence the shooter was a lefty.
Lots of evidence he was not.
lots of evidence that you are obsessed with "proving" he isn't
Walz appointed him to things - is he a super spy?
ALL frickING DAY with your bullshite -
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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JBE is a Catholic
Like Pelosi and Biden?
In name only?
Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What politics would you associate with a person if I told you he was: Anti-abortion Anti-trans Evangelical Christian
Pretty easy to feed this old dog eh?
Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:56 pm to jimmy the leg
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Like Pelosi and Biden?
In name only?
Sure.
We're still talking about Evangelicals, Since you're moving JBE further away from Evangelical Christianity to make him seem more left-aligned, you're implicitly proving my point.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:56 pm to OceanMan
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Pretty easy to feed this old dog eh?
So easy people have been avoiding doing it all day because it's clearly not a Leftist.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:58 pm to RohanGonzales
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Walz appointed him to things - is he a super spy?
Walz appointed a Republican who ran on praising Trump and as Trump-adjacent policies. She's still on the board. Is she?
Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:58 pm to Klark Kent
Dude is apparently in custody now so I guess we will know soon
Posted on 6/15/25 at 10:01 pm to BBONDS25
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We get it. You don’t want him to be a dem. Understood.
He’s not a Democrat and he is not a Republican. According to Democrats own private propaganda news The New York Times he was listed as "none or other" and in 2020 said "no party preference.". That settles that. He was not either. We can get down to what happened because blaming it on the Republicans won’t work at least this time anyway.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 6/15/25 at 10:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Very little evidence the shooter was a lefty. Lots of evidence he was not.
You can all him whatever you want, but he wasn’t a Republican. I’ll go with The New York Slimes until I hear different.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 10:06 pm to Sofaking2
We're not really discussing him in terms of party/partisanship. That's largely irrelevant.
If the media wants to run with this, they can be just as, if not more, effective with the conservative/Evangelical Christian angle.
If the media wants to run with this, they can be just as, if not more, effective with the conservative/Evangelical Christian angle.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 10:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Anti-abortion
Anti-trans
Evangelical Christian
You conveniently left out pro-open-boarders. I'm sure it's just an oversight...
Posted on 6/15/25 at 10:09 pm to jrobic4
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You conveniently left out pro-open-boarders.
No legitimate evidence has been circulated to show that.
He was involved in preaching gospel in Africa and doing business there. I think he may have spoken about legal immigration (which isn't "open borders") at some point.
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