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re: If Healthcare Vote is Why Boelter Shot Rep. Hortman, Why Did He Shoot Sen. Hoffman?

Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:30 pm to
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Why should anyone care if he is/was/appeared to be Evangelical, conservative, liberal, progressive, Republican or Democrat?

I agree. I imagine anyone pointing out his actual beliefs are doing it in response to people promoting a narrative that he's a leftist. I am.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:07 pm to
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That's why their most common rhetoric response to me is to make shite up


I hear ya. Gets old doesn't it?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:12 pm to
I STILL haven't gotten an answer as to why Senator Hoffman, who voted WITH Democrats was shot other than "collateral damage" which makes no sense.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 4:13 pm
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2066 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:12 pm to
If he wasn’t a left winger, the manifesto would have been released within hours, given how partisan left the Minnesota governor and AG are.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4901 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:15 pm to
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I imagine anyone pointing out his actual beliefs are doing it in response to people promoting a narrative that he's a leftist. I am.
I’m not sure why I should care about that at this point either? People are complex, I very much doubt anyone can discern the full measure of the man from a few vague and as yet not fully substantiated reports.

Also, your confidence in the DSM-5 seems inflated to me. I can’t think of any medical discipline that has caused more harm, foisted more invalid theories, or carried out more horrific therapies and treatments on patients than the field of psychology, and that’s before they became as ideologically captured as they are today.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 4:16 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:18 pm to
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I very much doubt anyone can discern the full measure of the man from a few vague and as yet not fully substantiated reports.

I read his website for his religious sect he created and listened to a sermon from him earlier. I feel that I have an idea

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:18 pm to
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If he wasn’t a left winger, the manifesto would have been released within hours, given how partisan left the Minnesota governor and AG are.


I don't trust Walz or Ellison in the least, but there might be other reasons not to release before Boelter is even apprehended.

Given Minnesota's track record, I don't even trust that there IS a manifesto. Certainly a possibility, though, that it is another instance like the Nashville tranny.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:22 pm to
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I don't trust Walz or Ellison in the least, but there might be other reasons not to release before Boelter is even apprehended.

it's called the Contagion Effect and it's why there is always a mass effort to scrub their online fingerprint and not release the manifestos.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:25 pm to
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By the end of the day, SFP will be convinced Boelter screamed This is MAGA Country!


He thought this when it first happened.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:26 pm to
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He thought this when it first happened.

Naw.

I waited for more information to come out
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:27 pm to
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What politics would you associate with a person if I told you he was:

Anti-abortion
Anti-trans
Evangelical Christian


Now do:

Pro-abortion
Anti-trans surgery on children
Atheist

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:34 pm to
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Now do:

Pro-abortion
Anti-trans surgery on children
Atheist


That can be a much wider range of things across the entire spectrum.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:40 pm to
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Now do:

Pro-abortion
Anti-trans surgery on children
Atheist


That can be a much wider range of things across the entire spectrum.

quote:

What politics would you associate with a person if I told you he was:

Pro-abortion
Anti-trans surgery on children
Atheist


Post facts, not conclusions, scholar
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:43 pm to
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Post facts, not conclusions, scholar

Can you read?

The questions asked for conclusions/opinions. The facts were already given.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20023 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:46 pm to
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We get it. You don’t want him to be a dem. Understood.


They do, but they're having a hard time admitting that this is what their party now stands for.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:48 pm to


Does that guy sound like a Democrat to you?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:50 pm to
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They do, but they're having a hard time admitting that this is what their party now stands for.


I'm not a Democrat. I just can't abide belligerent ignorance. Y'all keep claiming that a Democrat shot two Democrats because they didn't vote with other Democrats. One of them did and still got shot...so that vote can't be the motive for the shootings.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:50 pm to
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Can you read?
quote:

What politics would you associate with a person if I told you he was:

Pro-abortion
Anti-trans surgery on children
Atheist
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:52 pm to
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What politics would you associate with a person if I told you he was:

Pro-abortion
Anti-trans surgery on children
Atheist

Given these facts, I already gave you the opinion that this can go all along the political axis. Not likely to be extreme conservative, though, due to the abortion stance. Lots of centrists have these qualities.
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