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re: if China blockaded Taiwan tomorrow, what should US do?
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:07 am to RazorBroncs
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:07 am to RazorBroncs
China will never take over Taiwan unless we and Taiwan give it to them.
A big part of everything needed just for China to exist as they do now, they must keep up the appearance that they intend to take it by force.
A big part of everything needed just for China to exist as they do now, they must keep up the appearance that they intend to take it by force.
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:09 am to rmnldr
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We can’t sustain any losses to our navy whether it be damage, mission kills, or God forbid actually losing hulls. We don’t have the yards or capacity to rebuild or make repairs. Our missile stock is already heavily degraded. War planners were estimating that we’d go through our entire stock against China in eight days and the Iran war has shown that to likely be very accurate.
That assumes we use missles the same way we did 5 years ago. Drones are changing everything, on both side. They are cheap and can be made quickly.
Second, it will have to be a fast war for China. Man power loses has to minimal. They can’t afford to lose many citizens fighting nor injuries in Taiwan. This changes again in 10 years with essentially robot soldiers.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:09 am to VooDude
Some institutions have war-gamed this out; here is one version:
Battle board on YouTube - China invades Taiwan
Battle board on YouTube - China invades Taiwan
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:17 am to AlterEd
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Hitting that dam would be far worse than dropping a nuclear bomb on them. It would completely destroy their countr
There would be a few million deaths, but in a country of 800 million? Some of their big cities would suffer catastrophic temporary flooding, but it would recede on its own when the reservoir was exhausted. Most of these areas would not suffer scouring floodwaters, although they would be flooded.
America saw this in one city with Katrina. And New Orleans rebuilt fairly quickly. So would China. It would be a huge economic hit and take a few years to rebuild, but they would do it like ants fixing their hill after you kick it.
It’s a great target for America in the event of a conflict, but it gets too much play as a trump card in internet war gaming.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:23 am to RazorBroncs
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VooDude A complete blockage of all imports to the US from China first. A large chunk of their economy depends on Americans buying cheap plastic shite and stuff made in their child labor factories, shut off that spigot and yes, we hurt. But they hurt FAR worse.
This probably would have worked 20-30 years ago… the entire world for the last couple of decades have been coming up with “workarounds” around US policy… Trump stupid arse accelerated the dropping of the veil for lack of a better term
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:42 am to AlterEd
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Holy shite you might be genuinely retarded.
Answer the question you dumb frick. Appears you are the retarded one. Probably runs in your family. My IQ is above 140 and you?
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:44 am to VooDude
We should not do shat until the Taiwanese govt pays back US citizens the 100s of billions in bonds they bought during WW2 and they defaulted on.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:52 am to trinidadtiger
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We should not do shat until the Taiwanese govt pays back US citizens the 100s of billions in bonds they bought during WW2 and they defaulted on.
Impossible… the US economy is propped up by money on the books that’s owed but will never be paid back
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:53 am to VooDude
We wouldn't be laying down.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:54 am to ultratiger89
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So before it was built the world was devastated????
There is a big difference between the ordinary flooding of an un-damed river and the massive flooding from the same river due to a dam breaking.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:58 am to BK Lounge
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Im not smart enough to know what we should do if this comes to pass
Yes you are, just think about it a bit. If China tries to blockade Taiwan we send our navy right through their blockade. How in the hell can an inferior navy blockade a radically superior one? It’s impossible. It’s like you or me telling the top MMA heavyweight in the world that we are blocking him from entering the ring. Good luck with that.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:11 am to Penrod
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There is a big difference between the ordinary flooding of an un-damed river and the massive flooding from the same river due to a dam breaking.
This shouldn’t have to be explained
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:52 am to Penrod
Still wouldn’t devastate the world as the idiot I responded to claims. Where do these morons come from?
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:45 am to lepdagod
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We should not do shat until the Taiwanese govt pays back US citizens the 100s of billions in bonds they bought during WW2 and they defaulted on.
Impossible… the US economy is propped up by money on the books that’s owed but will never be paid back
The bonds were bought by US Citizens not the US Government, although at the behest of the US Government. Taiwan says it was for railroads in China that they are no longer a part of. China says the Taiwanese govt made the deal when they ruled the mainland.
The Taiwanese govt made that deal, if they couldnt hold the mainland that is of no concern of the bondholders in the US, they owe that money.
I never understand why people in America would even engage in a conversation of defending a government that fcked US Citizens out of 100s of billions of dollars.
Then Pelosi doubled fcked us with the CHIPS act and TSMC is now building in the US with billions in tax credits. We should have told them to make a JV with the US or keep their arse in Taiwan and let china take them.
Somewhere in a myriad of NGOs and offshore accounts you will no doubt find Pelosi's son a huge benefactor of all this nonsense.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:54 am to trinidadtiger
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The Taiwanese govt made that deal, if they couldnt hold the mainland that is of no concern of the bondholders in the US, they owe that money.
I never understand why people in America would even engage in a conversation of defending a government that fcked US Citizens out of 100s of billions of dollars.
I think you got the wrong idea and premise of what went on and what’s going on… those bonds contribute to our national economy rather paid back or not…
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The bonds were bought by US Citizens not the US Government, although at the behest of the US Government
This statement or what you trying to say makes no sense… bonds as with the dollar are backed by the Government… who else could back a loan to a foreign nation???
Posted on 5/3/26 at 12:01 pm to VooDude
Blockade the straights of Malacca.
Air lift medical supplies into Taiwan.
Send a CSG escort of food ships.
Evacuation of chip manufacturing.
Air lift medical supplies into Taiwan.
Send a CSG escort of food ships.
Evacuation of chip manufacturing.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 12:05 pm to ultratiger89
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Answer the question you dumb frick. Appears you are the retarded one. Probably runs in your family. My IQ is above 140 and you?
There is simply no way.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 12:49 pm to lepdagod
You can buy bonds with any govt or entity you want. It was backed by the chinese govt who lost to the communists and retreated to Taiwan. They owe these US citizens the money.......
This is akin to saying, "Nah you bought those US bonds when the republicans were in charge, the democrats are in charge now we dont owe it."
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Yes, many U.S. citizens and entities hold defunt, pre-1949 bonds issued by the Republic of China (ROC) and the Imperial Qing Dynasty. While the government that issued these bonds (the Kuomintang) is the same entity that retreated to Taiwan, it has officially designated these bonds as "defunct" and, under current Taiwanese law, not repayable until "national unification"
This is akin to saying, "Nah you bought those US bonds when the republicans were in charge, the democrats are in charge now we dont owe it."
Posted on 5/3/26 at 1:57 pm to VooDude
We would shut down the Mallaca straight, turn off all oil from Venezuela and Iran and everywhere else not named Russia and watch them collapse.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 2:10 pm to LegendInMyMind
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There is simply no way.
There are tests. Maybe you aren’t aware due to ignorance or just being dumb.
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