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re: If Biden won 2020 legitimately

Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:45 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:45 am to
I knew the fix was in when immediately after the election, without any thought, examination, or evidence - one of the most bizarre elections in American history…. With radical new rules never before tried - was oddly declared the “most secure election in history” by the news media. And a fresh new hashtag was locked and loaded (#thebiglie) for anyone who dare ask questions.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32190 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:45 am to
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isted several right-based conspiracy theories, mind you.



About conspiracy theories..

How's that investigation into Fauci going nowadays...?

Good thing he got autopen pardoned by biden huh?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481023 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:47 am to
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I asked for widespread rightwing conspiracies pushed by the media/entertainment apparatus.

And I gave you several

You're trying to dishonestly frame this where "media/entertainment" only includes the hand-picked people you select ad hoc.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481023 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:48 am to
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The only reason anyone showed up to a kamala rally was they were actually just paid for hip hop concerts.

Kamala got more votes in CA in 2024 than Obama got in 2008 and Hillary in 2016.

In a year where DEM enthusiasm was shite

And everyone hates Kamala

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129558 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:48 am to
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I knew the fix was in when
multiple states stopped updating their totals in their online reporting of vote totals.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481023 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:49 am to
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About conspiracy theories..

How's that investigation into Fauci going nowadays...?

Good thing he got autopen pardoned by biden huh?


quote:

If Biden won 2020 legitimately


Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36710 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:49 am to
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Again, just go back to the CA voting data. Why was 2020 such an outlier in a state where it would be retarded to engage in election fraud for Biden?


If you believe the data that is. It’s quaint that you do, I guess.

But I think the issue many have myself included is that there was so much, to use a phrase we both agree on, absurdity during that time that it’s hard to accept much on face value —- falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus Is a phrase I’m sure you’re familiar with.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140624 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:49 am to
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To date their has been no evidence of machine fraud and Dominion has won a lawsuit for defamation for the accusation its machine were hacked

That's a fair point.
It is also a great example of what I am pointing out.
There is no harm in investigation.

It turns out that in looking at Dominion voting systems in GA, which were basically presented as infallible by Dominion executives and political partisans, there were several serious vulnerabilities. For example, DVS machines could be hacked or programmed to produce a differential paper ballot print out versus QR code.

At GA polling stations, voters generated a ballot after voting, and were asked to confirm their printed ballot for accuracy before putting it in a scanner. But the scanner read the QR code, not the printed ballot. Post-election audits in Fulton County were not designed to look for that.

To your point, that does not prove a machine hack as contributory to the 2020 results. But the fact that we even looked, made the system better.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129558 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:50 am to
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You're trying to dishonestly frame this where "media/entertainment" only includes the hand-picked people you select ad hoc.


Good point.

CNN and Matt Walsh’s podcast are exact reflections of each other.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36710 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:51 am to
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And I gave you several You're trying to dishonestly frame this where "media/entertainment" only includes the hand-picked people you select ad hoc.


Are you really going to deny that there is a massive widespread media/entertainment conglomerate that completely dominates the globe?

Really?
This post was edited on 7/20/26 at 7:52 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481023 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:51 am to
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If you believe the data that is. It’s quaint that you do, I guess.


Why would they cheat in CA in 2020?

ASSUMING there was targeted cheating for Biden, that required MASSIVE resources diverted to specific counties in purple states, ultimately, Biden just barely won in that scenario.

In what would would diverting a huge chunk of those resources to cheat in CA, a state Biden was never losing, make sense?

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129558 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:51 am to
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there were several serious vulnerabilities.


The Dominion system has so many vulnerabilities that it’s impossible to take it seriously as a voting/tabulation software suite.

It’s a fraud enabling software designed for people who want to manipulate elections.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36710 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:55 am to
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Why would they cheat in CA in 2020? ASSUMING there was targeted cheating for Biden, that required MASSIVE resources diverted to specific counties in purple states, ultimately, Biden just barely won in that scenario. In what would would diverting a huge chunk of those resources to cheat in CA, a state Biden was never losing, make sense?


The plausible deniability presented in this post is 1 reason.

A better question is why not cheat in a state dominated by the left when there literally no oversight. And the people whose business it is to cheat, who get paid to cheat, might want to eat this year.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129558 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:57 am to
You cheat in California to win. Congressional races. To win city council seats.

Fraud didn’t just jump out in 2020.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481023 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:58 am to
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A better question is why not cheat in a state dominated by the left


What was more valuable to Biden: getting excess votes in CA or winning GA?
This post was edited on 7/20/26 at 7:59 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481023 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:59 am to
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You cheat in California to win. Congressional races. To win city council seats.

Fraud didn’t just jump out in 2020.


If you look at the historical data, you kind of have to argue it did jump out in 2020 and it never came back
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129558 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 8:00 am to
No. I don’t have to argue that, fig.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481023 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 8:02 am to
If it's not about the President alone, why did they stop cheating for all of those extraneous things in 2024? Were there not Congressional races? City council seats at stake?
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4942 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 8:02 am to
You’re asking me to defend every media failure of the last decade. I never did.

The media can be wrong, biased, or careless. None of that proves the 2020 election was stolen.

Every claim still has to stand on its own evidence. Distrusting the messenger may explain your suspicion but it doesn’t prove your conclusion. That horse still has to carry its own weight.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129558 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 8:03 am to
Do you think there was no local election fraud in 2024?

I don’t think you’ve thought this position all the way through.
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