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re: If Biden was doing this you would all be losing your GD minds

Posted on 10/10/25 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16474 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 5:54 pm to
Trump has secured the border and deported a lot of illegals. Very essential things for future elections. Very good job.

He’s pretty much sucked at about everything else, to include Bondi, Epstein, Kash, illegally deploying the Guard (massive slippery slope), more weapons to Ukraine, etc.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2946 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 5:54 pm to
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List the conflicts prior to the inauguration and those following.


You been hitting the MD 20/20 hard today?

Sober up and I'll wrap up the list and tie it with a bow.

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You dumb fricking moron.


Nice.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4629 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 5:56 pm to
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By using tariffs to invoke the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, it gives President Trump and his crew sweeping economic powers during a however they define “declared emergency”. So any situation deemed "unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, or the economy of the U.S." can be enforced. On a "whim." Real or not. Minor or not.


I understand what's causing your discomfort here. Unfortunately, we truly are facing an economic emergency because we've waited far too long to act on our twin deficits. If you understood that, then you'd also understand that tariffs have become a necessary, even if blunt, tool of last resort, because Congress won't/can't respond. If these emergency measures don't help to repair the structural defects in our economy, in combination with budget cuts, then what remains of the country will eventually be ruled by force no matter who's in power.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 6:03 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28009 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 5:58 pm to
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illegally deploying the Guard (massive slippery slope),


It’s called the insurrection act. It’s happened like over 30 times in American history with the last time being the LA riots after Rodney Kings trial (rooftop Korean shoutouts)

It’s extremely clear the president has the authority to nationalize the national guard for domestic security and order. Just because Trump did it in California and hasn’t actually moved anywhere else they don’t want them yet, without invoking the act doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have the power
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4172 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 5:58 pm to
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The other side literally did nothing positive. Let's start being honest and not starting weird threads about random things. You sound like a loser Lib


It's like you guys live on a different planet.

In the midst of a worldwide pandemic where every economy in the world suffered and many went into full-blown recession, the US was able to prevent a significant downturn.

Same with Obama—after the 08 crash, the Dems came in and stabilized and grew the economy and positioned America back into its glorious state that Trump
Inherited in his first term.


It's like you guys just run on feelings and emotions and have no desire to actually look at data.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135739 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:01 pm to
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By using tariffs to invoke the International Emergency Economic Powers Act


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So any situation deemed "unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, or the economy of the U.S." can be enforced.
WTF does that have to do with Trump?

If Congress wants to unwind their act, they can. If and untill they do, why would you object to Trump using US Constitutional Law to his benefit?
Posted by Rainier Fog
Member since Jul 2025
447 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:01 pm to
Did it ever occur to you that Trump has the task of cleaning up the last 4 years of disaster, while having lawfare slow down everything he tries to do?

Muh Epstein Files that Biden had 4 years to release and nobody mentioned it for 4 years
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5117 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:03 pm to
I 100% agree. We are having to put A LOT of faith in Daddy Trump right now. If he messes this up, I’ll almost have to conclude the whole purpose of Trump was to kill of right wing populism and nationalism for the foreseeable future.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:04 pm to
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Did it ever occur to you that Trump has the task of cleaning up the last 4 years of disaster, while having lawfare slow down everything he tries to do?

Let me go ahead and answer that for you: No. Nothing other than orange man bad has occurred to those types.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28009 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:04 pm to
Biden literally just printed cash and allowed an ungodly amount of fraud that all will be far far worse in the long run.

Barrack did a little better after the 08 crash because he did t “print money” per se to bail them out. Just created a new unique theory of money. Yay! Let us all not forever what caused that 08 crash either btw

It was the leftist screaming muh racism about loans for shite people clearly couldn’t afford so banks were essentially forced to give out massive loans with low rates then they sold them to the stock market it bundles. It was always a Ponzi scheme that would fail like most things the dems do, especially anything they do in the name of any iscm
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10429 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:05 pm to
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In the midst of a worldwide pandemic where every economy in the world suffered and many went into full-blown recession, the US was able to prevent a significant downturn.

Same with Obama—after the 08 crash, the Dems came in and stabilized and grew the economy and positioned America back into its glorious state that Trump
Inherited in his first term.


Both caused by democrat policies. I'm not going to praise them for softening the blow from the problems they created.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2946 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:06 pm to
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I understand what's causing your discomfort here. Unfortunately, we truly are facing an economic emergency because we've waited far too long to act on our twin deficits.


Hear ya.

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If you understood that, then you'd also understand that tariffs have become a necessary, even if blunt, tool of last resort, because Congress won't/can't respond.



Congress is just a Hollywood set and its reps just actors at this point. We've been had alright.

Disagree about the necessity of tariffs and what is a destabilizing economic effect (that the consumer actually pays in higher product costs.)

What would have helped our deficit SNAFU:

Deportations. Ending illegals benefits, housing and higher $$ allowances than for US citizens; Suspension of foreign aid hundreds of billions to Ukraine (still!), Israel, and all the other billions spent overseas; and a reduction in "Peace Time" military and black budgets.

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If it doesn't work, the country will eventually be ruled by the military no matter who's in power.



Unfortunately, I concur. At least you're realist and see the writing on the wall.

The worst part is, that "military" will eventually probably be supplanted by a Global / UN Police Force.






Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4629 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:07 pm to
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In the midst of a worldwide pandemic where every economy in the world suffered and many went into full-blown recession, the US was able to prevent a significant downturn.

Same with Obama—after the 08 crash, the Dems came in and stabilized and grew the economy and positioned America back into its glorious state that Trump
Inherited in his first term.


That's all sadly wrong. Printing money doesn't solve economic problems. It doesn't mitigate outcomes, just the opposite. If the Fed didn't print their way out of the two situations mentioned above, we would've had our "full-blown recessions", probably full blown depressions. But the Fed did print trillions of dollars both times, pushed interest rates well below the rate of inflation, and the future consequences will be much worse as a result.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 6:13 pm
Posted by BlueFalcon
Aberdeen Scotland
Member since Dec 2011
3588 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:08 pm to
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No Epstein release, foreign base in Idaho, gas & grocery prices still high.



No Epstein files released: Agreed, I know he's released a ton of them but I want them all released

Foreign Base in Idaho: LOL, you're maga but you fell for that? I think you're a liar about being 'MAGA as it gets'

Prices: Last I checked inflation is 2.9%, seems reasonable
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2946 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:11 pm to
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WTF does that have to do with Trump?


HE invoked the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to circumvent Congress and get his tariffs policies through as an "Emergency Act."

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If Congress wants to unwind their act, they can.


Not as long as Trump's invocation is still in effect.

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If and untill they do, why would you object to Trump using US Constitutional Law to his benefit?


What benefit or "MAGA" component do you see?
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
28406 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:12 pm to
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Muh Epstein Files that Biden had 4 years to release and nobody mentioned it for 4 years


There's nothing to release I honestly think they are being truthful about what they got, you wanna tell me that Democrats had all that evidence and didn't scrub every part of it? There's nothing there Trump is probably correct when he says move on from it because we will never know the truth. If he was implicated criminally in there in any way that could make it stick it would have been known and Trump would be in jail. They washed them the files so much they may as well have never existed. That's why Epstein is dead, kill threat ....threat gone
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 6:15 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135739 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:16 pm to
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but learn me this. Do tariffs not inherently make their target products more expensive to consumers?
... and that is a one-off, not a continuum of economic inflationary policy.

But let's assume (incorrectly) that tariffs are passed through 100%

Regardless of expense, WTF happens to 'demand' once tariffs increase prices?
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4172 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:16 pm to
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Both caused by democrat policies. I'm not going to praise them for softening the blow from the problems they created.


How did the Dems cause a worldwide pandemic that began with Trump in office? The US doesn't control the world btw

Please explain--maybe I missed that fact
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135739 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:17 pm to
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Not as long as Trump's invocation is still in effect.
False, obviously.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
28406 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:17 pm to
Americans deserve this, this is what decades of voting mindlessly gets you. Be smarter stop voting for uniparty globalists like the communist left
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 6:19 pm
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