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re: Idk if already posted, but CK’s surgeon calls him “man of steel” due to no exit wound

Posted on 9/21/25 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by drewb808
The top notch
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Posted on 9/21/25 at 10:07 pm to
Out of 30 odd 6
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40349 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 10:07 pm to
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Just ask anyone who hunts with a 30-06; some shots go straight through and cause massive damage, and some shot do weird things and there is no exit wound.


Yes that’s true. I think the skepticism comes from the fact he was hit in the neck which is what 8” thick maybe?

Not the same as hitting an animal in the shoulder etc etc.
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/21/25 at 10:08 pm to
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But as with all lovers of conspiracy theories, you have no theory. You don’t have an alternate explanation for what happened. You’re just sure what you’re being told is wrong. So get off your arse and go find out what happened.


My theory is that CK was shot by someone else with a different caliber weapon. There are actual things called “conspiracies” that actually do take place. If y’all wanna believe what they’re pushing out, good for you. Maybe he’ll be buried next to Lee Harvey Oswald after he’s taken out to prevent Erika Kirk the emotional stress of a trial.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26225 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 10:08 pm to
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Divine intervention that the bullet didn’t go all the way through?

What difference does it make


Maybe not hitting anyone else?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If and it is a big IF. If the bullet was a 150 gr or heavier no ballistic tip round and the bullet did not strike a vest first then it is a miracle.

Was Charlie wearing a vest? I hear some say yes other no.
I would like to know what type and weight the bullet was.

A 30-06 150 gr core lokt bullet it not going to be stopped by anything in the neck.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29817 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 10:15 pm to
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don’t think he understands how miracles work. A miracle and he would have survived. Who cares where the bullet went? He died regardless
I think the ER docs point was that there were people directly behind Charlie that could've been struck had the bullet exited.

Calling it a miracle that no one else was injured.

Which I THOUGHT was the OPs point, didn't realize we were going down a different caliber rabbit hole.

Fact is, bullets do crazy stuff upon impact. I haven't deployed or shot a human, but I've shot lots and lots of thin skinned animals with a 30-06 with 120-180 grain bullets of all types. Light bullets exit probably 50-75% of the time bone comes in contact. 180 gr is probably closer to 100%. Anecdotal obviously, but it's a lot of anecdotes.

Just like the OPs anecdotal evidence
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124648 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 10:20 pm to
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My theory is that CK was shot by someone else with a different caliber weapon.


That’s not really a theory.

Who? What caliber weapon?

Pretty wild coincidence that someone was set up to kill him but didn’t even take a shot. But also claimed to his lover that he did kill him (allegedly).
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 12:05 am to
I've killed a mountain of deer with a 30-06. Dozens. Many dozens. I've trapped bullets in deer a handful of times. Every time was because it hit bone. Normally just a rib.

You don't understand terminal ballistics Rambo.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15755 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 12:45 am to
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Often times the bullet is lodged in the skin on the far side with the jacket and bullet fragments inside the animal if it’s a regular cup and core (non-bonded, non-solid-copper) bullet.


Are you comparing a hog that is 18” thick with a scapula that will fragment rounds to a frontal shot on 5” of neck tissue that may have hit a vertebrae not exiting?

Have you neck shot a deer? What happens to the neck when it’s shot? With a .308, 30-06, .270, doesn’t matter, what happens to the neck? Do you get an exit wound? Be honest.

Yes you do, and it’s the size of a cue ball at least.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2591 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 3:25 am to
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Using the same caliber, the bullet does not always exit. It just depends. Am talking deer


Big difference between a deer and a human neck.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2591 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 3:26 am to
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So help me out. Are you saying that the person we have in custody isn’t the shooter? There was a different shooter with a different gun?


As weird as this story is, it’s entirely possible.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2591 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 3:34 am to
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I've killed a mountain of deer with a 30-06. Dozens. Many dozens. I've trapped bullets in deer a handful of times. Every time was because it hit bone. Normally just a rib. You don't understand terminal ballistics Rambo


You’re comparing shooting a human neck to a body shot on a deer.

Not saying you’re wrong. But any thinking person should be able to look at this whole story and agree there’s a lot of weird segments to the incident.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47745 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 6:24 am to
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This is a 1 BILLION % impossibility.

IF they found a bullet in his neck, then they need to begin a new search for the murder weapon.

Unless he somehow made a bullet out of aluminum - and would have had to practice a lot to sight in the trajectory from 160 yards.

QUESTION - what is all this about 'no exit wound' - what is that based on? - I've paid fairly close attention to the news and have not heard that at all - but my recollection of the murder video showed no blood spatter in the background either - what's the deal here? - is this another mystery >>????
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36641 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 6:28 am to
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Said a round that would “normally go through everything” was stopped by CK’s vertebrae. Called a “miracle from God” and a .30 cal round was allegedly recovered “just under the skin”.

This is a 1 BILLION % impossibility. Again, sorry if already discussed. No link but was reported by Fox News.
Plainly, there was no exit wound, or was there? . So, how do you explain it?
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
14885 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 6:36 am to
This simply not true.
Posted by Bunkie7672
Member since Mar 2020
962 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 6:36 am to
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But as with all lovers of conspiracy theories, you have no theory. You don’t have an alternate explanation for what happened. You’re just sure what you’re being told is wrong.


Just trust the experts.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3261 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 6:41 am to
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Ok man that’s your opinion.

No, that’s my firsthand experience.

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My experience deals with human bodies not animals.

If you aren’t lying, and you have experience shooting humans and seeing the aftermath of humans being shot in SWAT and in military, I can still about guarantee in neither situation is anyone using a 30-06 with cup and core hunting bullets. Rather most likely it is full metal jacket bullets used which behave differently and are more likely to push through and exit.

quote:

Don’t start sucking your best friend’s dick out of anger

I’d bet you are a homosexual, one with less than average intelligence.

Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3261 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 6:51 am to
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Are you comparing a hog that is 18” thick with a scapula that will fragment rounds to a frontal shot on 5” of neck tissue that may have hit a vertebrae not exiting?

How do you know the angle of CK’s shooter didn’t cause the trajectory of the round to go downward into his chest hitting clavicle, vertebrae, and/or scapula?

quote:

Have you neck shot a deer?

No, in my opinion that’s a risky and unethical shot. But that’s about the only shot I take on hogs because the neck is so much bigger.

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Do you get an exit wound? Be honest.

Sometimes I get an exit on a big hog’s neck with my 6.5 Grendel. Sometimes I don’t get an exit with my 30-06, a round with more than twice the power. The OP was advocating that it’s a MIRACLE that the bullet didn’t exit CK. The OP obviously has never shot a big animal before with a hunting rifle and he’s full of shite. There’s already a non-zero established prior probability that - sometimes - hunting bullets from powerful rounds do not exit.

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178875 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 7:40 am to
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My theory is that CK was shot by someone else with a different caliber weapon.



Jesus...
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178875 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 7:42 am to
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But also claimed to his lover that he did kill him (allegedly).


No!

You don't understand...that part is fake too to set up the troon lover!

He is just a fall guy for the Jews who killed CK because he was against Jews steamrolling Palestine!



That is the CT being floated around X and other sites. I am not a big Israel fan as I have made obvious here, and I love a good CT, but this one is just stupid and very reaching.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124648 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 7:49 am to
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As weird as this story is, it’s entirely possible.


It’s logically possible.

But that’s not a strong argument for it happening.
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