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re: Identity politics is partially responsible for white nationalism.

Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:35 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:35 pm to
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Identity politics is poison to the political discourse. Always has been, always will be.


It's awful.

It's just further division. People that divide themselves into tribes are limited by the lowest common denominator.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:35 pm to
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So, to phrase your post differently,

"but they did it first!"

Close. The OP is basically saying “they did it first.” I’m only correcting the OP. It wasn’t “them.” It was “these other people over here.”
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:35 pm to
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Literally every person who bitches about identity politics is guilty of it himself.


Absolutely fricking false.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69241 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:37 pm to
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It's time for them to grow out of it. It's the only way they'll ever succeed on an individual
They do not want to grow out of it.

Their entire worldview revolves around the caustic and hopelessly defeating idea that, by the very nature of their DNA, they cannot succeed because the system is against them.

It is the most cynical movement in the history of human thought.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:38 pm to
Partially?
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:38 pm to
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It is the most cynical movement in the history of human thought.

I’m draping the gold medal around Jim Crow’s neck. Now THAT was identity politics.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:40 pm to
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They do not want to grow out of it.

Their entire worldview revolves around the caustic and hopelessly defeating idea that, by the very nature of their DNA, they cannot succeed because the system is against them.

It is the most cynical movement in the history of human thought.


It's backwards to human evolution. We evolved out of tribalism into individuals, and some people who apparently crave security can't get past it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:42 pm to
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Now THAT was identity politics.


Absolutely. Thank god we escaped that shite and moved on 60 years ago.
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:42 pm to
The issue with getting away from collectivism is human nature. Tribalism has been part of our psyche since the beginning of time. That’s why it’s so easy for identity politics to take root.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78328 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:43 pm to
You don’t fight Identity Politics with more Identity Politics unless you want more Identity Politics. If you want harmony and prosperity in our culture you zealously enforce The Rule Of Law. And you encourage people to judge people on the content of their character rather than base external features.

Identity Politics is cultural Primitivism. We can be SO much better than dividing into tribes with never ending grievances against each other .
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:44 pm to
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Absolutely. Thank god we escaped that shite and moved on 60 years ago.


This.

Goddamn I can't imagine life in that era.

America's evolution on race in such a short time has been nothing short of an unmitigated modern miracle.

The people practicing identity politics now are a direct threat to undo that progress
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:46 pm to
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You don’t fight Identity Politics with more Identity Politics
Well I don’t, that’s for sure. But the OP is off base in his thread title. Identity politics isn’t/aren’t responsible for white nationalism—identity politics [i] is/are [i] white nationalism.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:46 pm to
OP is correct. When white people look around and seeing every single other group and subgroup putting their "identity" first and foremost, there's going to be resentment bred.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:47 pm to
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It's time for them to grow out of it.
It’s time for people with this attitude to grow out of it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:47 pm to
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It’s time for people with this attitude to grow out of it.


Well, you just cling to your little tribe there buckaroo...

Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:48 pm to
I think the whole "Pride" movement is fricking idiotic. Who gives a shite what color you are or who you like to bang if you're a worthless shite? That's what all these "pride" folks are. No matter the flavor, it's some worthless, do nothing POS that wants some sort of affirmation that they are awesome because they are part of some group. frick that. I'm all about a group of one. Want some pride? Try self pride. Take care of your shite. Be a decent person and pair your fair share.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:49 pm to
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Well, you just cling to your little tribe there buckaroo...
What tribe is that, squirt?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:50 pm to
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But the OP is off base in his thread title. Identity politics isn’t/aren’t responsible for white nationalism—identity politics is/are white nationalism.


OP said "partially responsible" right there in the freaking title, numbnuts.

Also, saying "identity politics is/are white nationalism" is inaccurate. White nationalism is a particular strain of identity politics. Different aspects of identity politics can and are directly related to the rise in other competing strains.

That's kind of the point of the whole game, tbh.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 10:50 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69241 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:50 pm to
Your black tribe.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:50 pm to
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Who gives a shite what color you are or who you like to bang if you're a worthless shite?
How many people fitting this description have you asked this, and what were their reactions?

I’m guessing “0” and “n/a.”
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