re: ICEBlock App alerts people if ICE is within 5 miles

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Be a good person. It’s okay. I know it’s in you.

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I doubt a good person has been inside her in quite a long time.

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I didn’t know of anyone luring firefighters to a location to ambush and murder them…until last night.

Based on the social climate that Democrats have created for their followers, ICE agents are probably thousands of times more vulnerable to being attacked than firefighters.

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Idaho is a red state. The 20 year old who opened fire fits the "lone wolf" descriptor. This does not appear to be politically motivated in the least.

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The attack stunned some members of the suspect's family as his name began circulating in news reports on Monday, and they initially thought he could have been at the scene as a volunteer. Wess Roley's grandfather told NBC News that "something must have snapped" for his grandson to have committed such violence, particularly against firefighters.

"He actually really respected law enforcement," Dale Roley said. "He loved firefighters. It didn't make sense that he was shooting firefighters. Maybe he got rejected or something."

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LINK

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doubt a good person has been inside her in quite a long time.

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That homeless guy was a saint, dammit.

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Wait, are we talking about DUI checkpoints or ICE activities?

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DUI checkpoints are used to arrest people breaking the law. Publishing their locations would be obstructing justice, right?

Or is that somehow different than publishing the locations of ICE agents?

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Waze doesn't help you avoid arrest warrants and active ICE investigations if that's what you're asking.

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It theoretically could. You're adding things to try to distinguish the two. The question is location of Elio only. That's the only information that is involved. If you get pulled over for speeding because a cop is located and running radar and you have a warrant then you're going to jail the same as if you get pulled over by an ice agent and you have a warrant. That is a secondary variable that's not relevant to the discussion

The only thing these apps give you is the location of law enforcement activity. Period.

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Does it have functionality to permit you to avoid LEO locations, checkpoints, etc.?

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Again.

What is the INTENT of the app?

Waze = designed to get you to designated location as fast as possible.

Ice block = designed to give you the location of federal agents.



Both are protected first amendment speech examples. But, in true to “slowflowcantholdit” form, you choose to be a douche nozzle of the highest degree.

They are not the same.

One is designed for legal purposes, one is designed to give people here illegally a heads up that the heat is on.


You are arguing that because they, at their root, are both sourcing the information legally, they are the same.

They are not.

Just like a locksmith carrying lockpicking tools is not the same as Joe blow in all black carrying lockpicking tools at 2am.


but but but but but but but they are both just guys holding an inanimate tool! They are the sammmmmeeee!!!!!

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What is the INTENT of the app?

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Literally irrelevant. I ask again

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Does it have functionality to permit you to avoid LEO locations, checkpoints, etc.?

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If citizens are posting public information, what's the problem?

Do you think people who use Waze should be prosecuted for similar obstruction?

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I rarely agree with you. In this instance, I do, with a few stipulations. If citizens are reporting ICE is present by just seeing them in public, fine. If they are using electronic means (geofencing, scanners on protected channels, etc), I'm going to have to disagree. At that point you are purposely putting yourself in possession of operational and tactical information that could jeopardize agents*.




*How you would enforce that, I don't know.

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Literally irrelevant. I ask again

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No it isn’t.

Just like who and where a person is in possession of lockpicking tools is not irrelevant.

The tool is the same. How and the intent of usage is where the issue arises.

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You do realize that the activity of trying to catch potential DUI drivers at a road block is different from Federal agents serving active arrest warrants to criminals who have been indicted for a crime?

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You're claiming they are different. Each activity is designed to catch lawbreakers.

Everyone detained by ICE has not been indicted. In fact, very few have been formally indicted.