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re: I wonder if the SCOTUS knows there are millions of CCP birthright citizens in the US?
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:20 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:20 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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If we're talking about analyzing the text of our Constitution, why would this matter?
Were the non-citizen Chinese parents subject to the jurisdiction of the US?
SloMoFo....
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:23 pm to Bass Tiger
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SloMoFo
He asks a barely-relevant question.
I respond.
He doesn't respond (Someone else does rambling incoherently).
What's funny about him failing to defend his barely-relevant question?
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:34 pm to LemmyLives
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37 second recording of her saying "100,000 children in serious condition, many of them on ventilators."
She just makes shite up.
You could take reasonably intelligent people with little to no legal background, forget all the legalese BS and they would make a more prudent and logical legal decisions than Sotomayor and Ketanji Brown Jackson......guaranteed! Our judiciary is so full of itself and drunk on their own spiked leftist Kool Aid interpretation of the law.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:56 pm to Bass Tiger
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If President Trump’s executive order had been in effect, none of those 245,000 would’ve received citizenship.
If you cut the line, break the law to come to our country illegally, and then have a child — they should not automatically become American citizens.
The President is trying to put a stop to this giant scam.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:05 pm to Ailsa
Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:06 pm to Bass Tiger
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This^^^ came later, the original impetus behind the 14th amendment was to give freed black Americans US citizenship.
Im not sure what you mean by "later".
Of course, the impetus of the first sentence of the 14th Amendment was the Dred Scott decision, which denied citizenship to people who were born as slaves.
But the debate I referenced took place when Congress was voting on the 14th Amendment, before it was ever submitted to the States.
The language was intended to encompass the children of immigrants. Whether they were Chinese, gypsies, or "cannibals from Borneo".
Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:11 pm to Bass Tiger
Most of the SCOTUS judges don't know nor care. They have their heads so far up their asses that they can't see the world around them.
Some view the Constitution as a living document, which can be a good thing if not taken too far. I can guarantee that none of our founding fathers could have ever imagined that we'd have a President (Biden) allow tens of millions of unvetted illegals into our nation on an "honors system ".
I firmly believe, with all my soul that 80%of tax paying Americans share my same basic values and do not believe ANYONE born here by an illegal should be granted citizenship.
Sadly, SCOTUS was our best hope. They sell out cowards that we the people vote into Congress (GOP) will NEVER attempt to tackle this huge of a topic.
Trump will sign an EO, but it will be bogged down by the Marxist Judges and never take affect.
IF we continue on this direction, we're no different than the EU. It will take a while longer, but we'll eventually face the same circumstances. Someday, when this all comes to a head, it will split this nation apart. Too many of is aren't willing to sit back and allow what's coming.
Some view the Constitution as a living document, which can be a good thing if not taken too far. I can guarantee that none of our founding fathers could have ever imagined that we'd have a President (Biden) allow tens of millions of unvetted illegals into our nation on an "honors system ".
I firmly believe, with all my soul that 80%of tax paying Americans share my same basic values and do not believe ANYONE born here by an illegal should be granted citizenship.
Sadly, SCOTUS was our best hope. They sell out cowards that we the people vote into Congress (GOP) will NEVER attempt to tackle this huge of a topic.
Trump will sign an EO, but it will be bogged down by the Marxist Judges and never take affect.
IF we continue on this direction, we're no different than the EU. It will take a while longer, but we'll eventually face the same circumstances. Someday, when this all comes to a head, it will split this nation apart. Too many of is aren't willing to sit back and allow what's coming.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:21 pm to Taxing Authority
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No intellectually honest person can argue that the Constitution’s intent was to allow open citizenship to any woman who could jump the fence and go into labor.
Indeed. Just like the 2A doesn't apply to semi-automatic firearms.
There are times when sane and rational thought along with a dose of common sense must supersede past precedent and questionable interpretations of the law. When it comes to the abuse of the 14th amendment the US is 100 years beyond the time it should have been amended or abolished.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:24 pm to Bass Tiger
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When it comes to the abuse of the 14th amendment the US is 100 years beyond the time it should have been amended or abolished.
And that path exists via the amendment process.
That's the mechanism installed when society-technology develops to where the Constitution has inefficiencies and negative externalities on our population and citizenry.
This is exactly why the decision before the court should never consider something like what is discussed in OP. That's a subject to be discussed by a committee proposing to amend the Constitution, not the court (who must rule on our Constitution as is, and ignore those negative externalities and inefficiencies referenced above)
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If we're talking about analyzing the text of our Constitution, why would this matter?
How about using some common sense instead of trying to be edgy on every topic
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:28 pm to LawTalkingGuy
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We are a nation of laws. Whether we are talking about the Constitution or statutory laws, we are stuck with the words in those laws.
Close. We're stuck with whatever 5 people say those words mean.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:29 pm to lsusteve1
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How about using some common sense i
That sounds like a crutch to avoid the actual, relevant discussion
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instead of trying to be edgy on every topic
No rational person would interpret what I asked as "edgy"
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No rational person would interpret what I asked as "edgy"
You literally argue every single topic that leans liberal and dare I say, un-American.
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:35 pm to lsusteve1
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You literally argue every single topic that lens liberal
Not true. I was defending the hell out of the 2A today, for instance.
There is nothing partisan about birthright citizenship...for intelligent, rational people at least.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There is nothing partisan about birthright citizenship...for intelligent, rational people at least.
Intelligent people would mostly agree that birthright citizenship is a farce and needs to die
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:43 pm to lsusteve1
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Intelligent people would mostly agree that birthright citizenship is a farce and needs to die
That's a discussion for the amendment process.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 5:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I was defending the hell out of the 2A today
For illegals?
You have done that in the past.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:06 pm to jimmy the leg
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For illegals?
For everyone
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I was defending the hell out of the 2A today, for instance.
So you're good with AlwysATgr procuring weaponry commensurate with our military?
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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For illegals?
Like I said…
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