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re: I wonder how oppressed women feel

Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:17 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:17 am to
yeah it's going to get really weird the next decade. REALLY weird
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:18 am to
I have guns, land, and agricultural know-how. I will train an army of NEETs and become the ancap warlord.
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:19 am to
I find it hard to be progressive with all the irrational fears being promoted across the movement

If we'd take a step back and realize these issues are nothing but fear mongering propaganda to make everyone angry, maybe we could then all work together

But the elite wants us to be divisive and hate each other. We are easier to control then
Posted by Loserman
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:20 am to
How they FEEL is the problem.

Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:20 am to
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Do you consider yourself a feminist?
No, and for the same reason I don't consider myself a conservative. I do agree with the basic feminist "agenda" that everyone should be treated equally, but I absolutely despise that it's used as an excuse to do all sorts of stupid shite. Similarly, I agree with the basic conservative tenets of small government (and taxes to match), free markets, and you can pry my guns from my cold, dead hands, but I can't bring myself to identify as a conservative because it seems these days the crazies are running the show.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:21 am to
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Progs really are living in the 1950's harboring irrational fears


Yep. The internment camps meme was just another instance of their irrational fears.

Has Trump outlawed gay yet


Their irrationality stems from a small world view, which is a byproduct of bubble dwelling. I'm astounded at some of their racial and other views. Many still have a mindset that the world is pre1960
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 11:22 am
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:22 am to
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A population of people feel marginalized and want to act on it in the country where they vote and pay taxes, and your response is, "well what about them over there? You should be grateful!"



My response to them would involve stats and facts. The system favors women. There are some assholes (male and female) that believe and do terrible things to one another. Systemic problems can be protested and changed. Assholes can't.

No, this was not a response to these womens' grievances, this was me wondering how their protest made women feel who live in societies with systemic oppression.
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:24 am to
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It was a distinctly American protest.
A LOT of women were marching all around the world.
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Doing it on the day after the inauguration means their valid message was moslty lost in a sea of anti-Trump protestation.
Yep, Trump's election kicked this off, because I think he is seen as the symptom of the underlying problem.
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All women? That was less than 1% of American women.
You're assuming the motives are the same for over a million people.
Posted by Jimbeaux
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:24 am to
That's pretty barbaric!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:24 am to
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I find it hard to be progressive with all the irrational fears being promoted across the movement

i literally just had that discussion on a private FB group

there are plenty of things to be critical of, but if you keep promoting these false boogeymen? frick off
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:24 am to
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I find it hard to be progressive with all the irrational fears being promoted across the movement


Your views seem more in line with an economic liberal. While I disagree with some of them, I find them sane. I'm shocked at how mainstream craziness (and it crosses party lines) has become.
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:25 am to
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uh, none of them?

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here
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Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:26 am to
So you are a conservative but you just don't tell anyone?

No sane person IRL would argue that people shouldn't be treated equally.

I'm still wondering how women aren't treated equally. Their protest was ineffective in that regard. But, the intent wasn't to garner understanding IMO.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:28 am to
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No sane person IRL would argue that people shouldn't be treated equally.



Everyone should be treated equally in politeness and assumption of good character until proven otherwise.

We should not, however, treat people as if they are all equals.
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:32 am to
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That bubble you are in...yikes.

I'm the one in a bubble?

How many threads have we seen on this board completely dismissing the complaints of millions of women as invalid?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:33 am to
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I'm the one in a bubble?

How many threads have we seen on this board completely dismissing the complaints of millions of women as invalid?
If the statement he quoted was indicative of your beliefs, absolutely. Your view is archaic
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:38 am to
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So you are a conservative but you just don't tell anyone?
I would if I felt like it would make a difference, but it doesn't. I've discussed how much I hate government handouts on this board before. But because I also say that I understand the necessity and I believe the welfare system can be reworked in a positive way, several people come along and bash welfare as redistribution, and I'm a liberal again.

So I guess how I'm tagged isn't my choice, but everyone else's.
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No sane person IRL would argue that people shouldn't be treated equally.
This ain't IRL.
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I'm still wondering how women aren't treated equally.
I think it's the fear that Trump's perceived personal beliefs will spill over into his policies.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:40 am to
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You're assuming the motives are the same for over a million people.



I can only comment on what I saw and heard. With the internet and everyone holding a camera, we get great insight on what is happening in public spaces. You are accusing me of speculating on the motives of the protesters. I have viewed about an hour of video from multiple protests and seen hundreds of pictures from the domestic protests. All evidence points to this being a largely American protest. Where is the evidence to support your position that this was a march for the women in countries with systemic oppression?

And why did you say less than 1% of American women was all women?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:42 am to
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I think it's the fear that Trump's perceived personal beliefs will spill over into his policies


I suppose they protested Bill Clinton's inauguration and protested Hillary for bashing his accusers.

What policies would he enact by EO that they fear?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:42 am to
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If the statement he quoted was indicative of your beliefs, absolutely. Your view is archaic
In the light of day, it is archaic. But if you don't think a LOT of men control their wives and girlfriends behind closed doors, then you are being willfully ignorant.

And that control stems from a lack of respect for women, and that is plainly on full display on this board. Do you not see it?
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