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re: I wonder how oppressed women feel
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Sure. There are people like that in any group that large, and they do it for attention. And they get it.
can we all agree that any woman wearing a pussy hat or holding an offensive sign was not marching for women around the world?
quote:Why not? Isn't it a seed of revolution?
it's not scary.
quote:Like starting facebook memes that the opposition makes fun of and dismisses immediately? Or doing TV interviews that the opposition makes fun of and dismisses immediately? Or bring to light certain things that are happening which the opposition makes fun of and dismisses immediately as fake news?
there are much more constructive, rational ways to proliferate your viewpoints, especially in the age of information
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:47 am to olgoi khorkhoi
quote:Here again you paint all these women as selfishly marching for themselves. Don't you think many, if not most, of them realize that the truly oppressed can't march for themselves, so someone has to bring attention to it?
Now, I, Dick am wondering out loud how oppressed women feel seeing non-oppressed women march against their own oppression.
Do you really give all women that little credit? Probably so, and you wonder why they march.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:50 am to Korkstand
How many "I'm with Her" tshirts did you order?
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:51 am to Korkstand
quote:
Why not? Isn't it a seed of revolution?
in modern times, this is rare and it's not very optimal when it occurs
revolution is a very scary thing, and it becomes even scarier and more absurd when we're talking about this "you're not that oppressed compared to everyone else" paradigm (like we see in the US). revolution in a country that is so stable and free is very, very scary. what would be the resulting society?
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Like starting facebook memes that the opposition makes fun of and dismisses immediately? Or doing TV interviews that the opposition makes fun of and dismisses immediately?
well these are functions of the low level of rhetoric in modern political discussion
sound, logical, and rational arguments are eternal
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:52 am to Korkstand
quote:While I would much more support this kind of march, the signs, chants, and interviews indicate otherwise.
the idea behind it is those women were marching for the women who are not allowed to march.
quote:What, specifically, are women here at home not allowed to do that men are allowed to do? We have the same rights and opportunities as men.
All over the world, and here at home, there are many things that women are not allowed to do.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:53 am to Jimbeaux
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WTF is this?
LINK
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The ritual involves pounding the breasts as soon as they begin to develop with objects that have been heated over hot coals. Some women use rocks, others hammers and spatulas.
The sickening act is commonplace in parts of Africa, but those at the frontline of child protection say it is also happening in African communities in the UK.
The idea is that by removing their breast tissue, youngsters will be less sexually attractive and less likely to become pregnant at a young age, preventing them bringing shame on their families.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:56 am to roadGator
Ah, so I'm less of a man because I can understand the plight of another human being? Because I can put myself in someone else's shoes?
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:58 am to When in Rome
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What, specifically, are women here at home not allowed to do that men are allowed to do?
whoa whoa whoa. we need to clarify
are you allowing him to mansplain you? just so we're clear
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:59 am to Korkstand
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All over the world, and here at home, there are many things that women are not allowed to do.
Jesus..
What aren't women allowed to do here?
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
Smash the patriarchy?
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
I think SJWs hate the word "specifically".
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:00 am to olgoi khorkhoi
According to some post on Facebook the US is ~44th in women's equality in the world. Behind Cuba and several African countries. I think it's a bunch of bull but it's not really worth my time/research to see why it says that.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:00 am to Korkstand
Ah, so I only asked how many tshirts you bought that said, I'm with Her.
I have another question. Do you consider yourself a feminist?
I have another question. Do you consider yourself a feminist?
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:01 am to HempHead
there are basically 2 real responses to that question that i've seen
the first is this esoteric "living in fear of sexual assault" meme
the second is the whole "if i get pregnant i hurt my economic viability" argument
the rest is just magical, vague patriarchy shite
the first is this esoteric "living in fear of sexual assault" meme
the second is the whole "if i get pregnant i hurt my economic viability" argument
the rest is just magical, vague patriarchy shite
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:02 am to PrideofTheSEC
Everyone's equal when they're all poor as a pauper.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:02 am to When in Rome
oh if you want to really get into it, ask for their specific policy responses to these perceived oppressions
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:02 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:How long do you think it takes a country to destabilize? Not long. Especially if the man in charge continues to piss off the majority with every move he makes.
revolution in a country that is so stable and free is very, very scary
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what would be the resulting society?
quote:Then give me an example of a constructive way to proliferate one's viewpoint.
well these are functions of the low level of rhetoric in modern political discussion
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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the second is the whole "if i get pregnant i hurt my economic viability" argument
Which brings me to women in engineering, the medical field, law, etc., - we as taxpayers and the women themselves spend a LOT of money to be trained professionally, only to drop out at extremely high rates (relative to men) in these fields. There's no telling how many millions of dollars have gone to medical schools that trained a currently non practicing female physician.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:04 am to Korkstand
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Here again you paint all these women as selfishly marching for themselves. Don't you think many, if not most, of them realize that the truly oppressed can't march for themselves, so someone has to bring attention to it?
It was a distinctly American protest. I didn't see any signs or hear any chanting that would lead me to believe this was anything but a protest against American patriarchy and Donald Trump, who they see as the face of it. There may have been some women marching for oppressed women elsewhere. Provide a link or some evidence, so we can applaud those women. Doing it on the day after the inauguration means their valid message was moslty lost in a sea of anti-Trump protestation.
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Do you really give all women that little credit? Probably so, and you wonder why they march.
All women? That was less than 1% of American women.
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