re: I wonder how oppressed women feel

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Well, I personally know that $0.70 for every $1 a man makes is very real. My wife's boss ( a man) was forced to retire and she was given his job. Not only was she given his responsibilities, but they told her they were not backfilling her role and she needed to do both responsibilities. Her boss was making $100k. When they gave her the job, they offered her $65K. She's doing more and is responsible for more than her previous manager ever was asked to do.

So, I stand with women on this issue, because we've experienced this in our household and I'm sure many of your wives, sisters, and mothers have experienced it as well.

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Sounds to me like she poorly negotiated her contract.

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so how do we label a relationship with a dominant female?

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uh that would be progress mate

He got you confused with jet.

well back to a serious response

your comment about negotiation has a term in the feminist lingo

it's like "the super woman" or something. they're using it to attack Ivanka

basically the argument is that SOME women are amazing and can do all these amazing things and they cannot speak for feminism b/c it creates an ideal that all women can do this, which reinforces the partriarchy and "right wing" beliefs about self determination

the argument is essentially that Ivank cannot be a feminist b/c she's done too well b/c she's legitimately really good at living her life. they are setting the bar really high for their followers

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i should have looked at my OT pic collection to confirm (but that's on another computer)

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You really have no idea of a difference between starting pay and 25 years of experience?

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Do you have no idea that some people can become as proficient in 1 year as others can in 25? The time doesn't matter, it's what you know and how well you do the job.

Now, it seems obvious that this poster's wife is capable of doing the job since it was offered to her, AND they must think she is capable of doing it so well that she can still do her old duties, too.


So laugh if you want, but nobody should use or accept seniority as a bargaining chip when negotiating salary. The value is in the experience, not in how long it took to acquire it.

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Do you really give all women that little credit?

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Yeah, I asked a question. Do you give all women as little credit as you are giving the millions who marched?

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Now, it seems obvious that this poster's wife is capable of doing the job since it was offered to her, AND they must think she is capable of doing it so well that she can still do her old duties, too.

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i'm not saying this is true, but it's very possible this is just a downsizing scenario and regardless of who took that role, they wouldn't get the same payscale while having to do both jobs. that's a very possible sccenario

Did not know this was a thing.

Superwoman Ideal

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The “Superwoman” ideal is a construct born out of the women’s movement in the 1960’s defined as women who can “do it all and have it all”. However, women today may actually be receiving the message that they should have it all and are experiencing stressors as a result of that pressure. Studies have found that girls who endorsed the superwoman ideal were also more likely to experience disordered eating behaviors. In contrast to the concept of the “Superwoman” and the possible negative effects it may have on young women, most research on feminist identity development have shown it to have a positive effect on both men and women. The gap in the literature today is whether there is a relationship between feminist identity and the superwoman ideal. The current study sought to examine a possible relationship between feminist identity and the superwoman ideal. Results indicate a significant inverse relationship between the passive acceptance stage of feminist identity and adherence to the superwoman ideal

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They could have simplified their definition to:

Did you read the whiny article I posted a couple of pages back?