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re: I wholeheartedly disagree with the Trump administration on getting rid of Net Neutrality
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:05 pm to Centinel
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:05 pm to Centinel
quote:So. The frick. What? How the hell do you still not get it?
But they existed prior to NN and Title II.
quote:Again. So. The frick. What? Nobody cares if they have "grid power" or not.. they just need reliable power that is there when they need it. Similarly, we need reliable internet that is there when we need it. Satellite and mobile providers cannot offer this currently due to their tiny data caps. Hence, they simply do not compete with cable/fiber internet.
And in the case of transmitting packets, you don't need access to the internet, you just need access to equipment to send and receive them.
In the case of grid power, you need to be "on the grid"
But what the frick does all this have to do with the actual topic? You keep running these dumbass arguments into the ground until they stop making any sense (assuming they did to begin with).
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:05 pm to Centinel
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This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:05 pm to Centinel
quote:
I'm not talking about wireless standards. I'm talking about the FCC standard for broadband.
Do wireless providers meet this standard? yes or no?
The FCC standard for high speed broadband is 25mbps download. A pretty conservative definition compared to international standards.
We went over this, but you know that:
The majority of Americans have 1 or fewer options for high speed broadband.
EDIT: it should also be prefaced this is not truly granular analysis. It only looks at census blocks, as is often the case, not all households have the same availability. In my area people down the street have full ATT service, Its not available on my street. Some houses also aren't positioned for satellite, or can't have it. But the data just looks at if something is available to some people in a census block. So its uglier than the chart actually shows.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:05 pm to Tigerdev
quote:
Ehhh... You are fairly hyper partisan and i cant recall a single time you have agreed with a liberal poster on anything
Roy Moore is a jackass.
Obama was awesome with his space policy.
I'm pro life and pro gay marriage.
Pro drug legalization.
The sexual assault allegations with no proof is bullshite, no matter the party involved. To include hollywood.
Churches should lose their tax exempt status.
Do I need to keep going?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:06 pm to Centinel
Touche. I was wrong. I apologize. Having a good Thanksgiving?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:06 pm to Centinel
Weird it's almost as if the ISPs have created a patchwork network of regulations that give them the great benefits of being a utility.... like public rights of way and eminent domain..... yet they keep slipping through the bad parts.
Yet we should totally relax the most significant customer protection they have to obey..... they aren't a monopoly via cartel using government regulation to restraint the free market at all
Yet we should totally relax the most significant customer protection they have to obey..... they aren't a monopoly via cartel using government regulation to restraint the free market at all
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:07 pm to bonhoeffer45
Your chart ignores mobile providers.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:07 pm to Tigerdev
quote:
Ehhh... You are fairly hyper partisan and i cant recall a single time you have agreed with a liberal poster on anything
I realize this is shocking but if of is a conservative based on core principles they aren't going to with liberals very often
That's not partisan. Its just reality
Like bitching about a socialist for being "partisan" for rarely agreeing with conservatives
I mean no shite LOL
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:07 pm to Centinel
quote:
Then why the frick don't I have gig fiber at my house?
You have some broadband, don't you? It might not be the ferrarri, but you've at least got a Honda.
The federal government divies the nation into "blocks" which are typically at the county level. They ensure that every block has broadband access. Each year, broadband providers are required to increase the percentage of customers within those blocks that have access to their services. They also provide grant funding to ISP's in more rural areas to encourage them to expand services to more and more isolated communities. So, yes, yes they do, even though their requirements are not nearly as strict as the true utilities like municipal water (limited by city limits, unincorporated areas do not need to have centralized water systems), grid power, and telephone service (AT&T).
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:07 pm to CorporateTiger
quote:
Weird it's almost as if the ISPs have created a patchwork network of regulations that give them the great benefits of being a utility.... like public rights of way and eminent domain..... yet they keep slipping through the bad parts.
Yet we should totally relax the most significant customer protection they have to obey..... they aren't a monopoly via cartel using government regulation to restraint the free market at all
He couldn't grasp how a natural monopoly works in the other thread either. Its not gonna change in here I suspect.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:08 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
What do you disagree with Trump on? He can’t be 100%. You need to give me an example on policy.
Tariffs
Business subsides(in general)
Capital punishment
Stop and frisk
Imminent domain
Drug policy
Do you want more
Wait
OML asks for this then doesn't have the balls to respond
Lol
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:08 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
I wonder what Ajit Pai did before he entered government service... any guesses?
why are we letting people with sketchy sounding names like that work at the government?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:09 pm to el Gaucho
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This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:09 pm to Centinel
quote:The fact that you keep asking this irrelevant question says much.
Do wireless providers meet the FCC standard for broadband internet?
It really is a simple yes or no question.
The fact you're unwilling to answer this says much.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:10 pm to Centinel
quote:
Roy Moore is a jackass. YEP
Obama was awesome with his space policy. YEP
I'm pro life and pro gay marriage. YEP
Pro drug legalization. YEP
The sexual assault allegations with no proof is bullshite, no matter the party involved. To include hollywood. YEP
Churches should lose their tax exempt status. NO
Close LOL
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:10 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
OML asks for this then doesn't have the balls to respond
The PT board should be burned to the ground.
What is wrong with you people here?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:11 pm to Centinel
quote:For good reason. They don't compete with cable/fiber internet providers.
Your chart ignores mobile providers.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:11 pm to CorporateTiger
quote:
Preaching to the fricking choir. Either way it's about time for me to go bed. I think have eviscerated this dude's argument enough for one night.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:11 pm to Korkstand
quote:
For good reason. They don't compete with cable/fiber internet providers.
He's desperately trying to salvage his initial argument, but not even this Trumpkin bastion is buying it, which is telling.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:12 pm to Korkstand
quote:
For good reason. They don't compete with cable/fiber internet providers.
Dafuq?
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