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re: I think Black Americans with traceable ancestry to slavery should receive reparations

Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:48 am to
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:48 am to
They should thank every white person they see they aren’t half starving in a mud hut with Malaria hoping to live to 50.
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:51 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:53 am to
What should have happened was slaveowner land should have been taken and divided among the slaves after the civil war.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:55 am to
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They should receive land.


Hand them the keys to New York and California, establish a perimeter, and allow them to metamorphose it into a flourishing oasis like Wakanda.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 11:56 am
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:59 am to
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What should have happened was slaveowner land should have been taken and divided among the slaves after the civil war.

Why? Until the ratification of the 13th amendment slave owners hadn't broken any laws. That's civil asset forfeiture on steroids.

As beautiful and as reverent as it is, I still think it's pretty shitty that the US Army took RE Lee's home and turned it into a cemetery.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:00 pm to
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Why? Until the ratification of the 13th amendment slave owners hadn't broken any laws.


You dont have to break laws to be morally repulsive.

Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:03 pm to
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Hand them the keys to New York and California, establish a perimeter, and allow them to metamorphose it into a flourishing oasis like Wakanda.


I want that signature Kunta Kinte flying saucer with blacked out windows and fuzzy dice in the mirror.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:07 pm to
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You dont have to break laws to be morally repulsive.


No one owes anyone anything anywhere on Earth for shite that happened prior to 1865.

You’re using female logic.

Stop.
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2263 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:08 pm to
What about white americans who had ancestors DIE in the civil war for the union?

Where are the reparation outcries for them?
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:10 pm to
I think every European bloodline decedent should receive reparations from Italy, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, all former Ottoman Empire countries, etc..
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:12 pm to
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What should have happened was slaveowner land should have been taken and divided among the slaves after the civil war.


You do realize that the North had slaves as well, right?

The imagery in modern culture is the entire South was made up of nothing but vast open cotton fields and huge planation homes owned by rich white people who didn't want to give up their slaves.

Reality is percentage-wise very few in the South owned plantations with slaves and the majority of families lived in small homes and independently farmed. The North didn't free their slaves, they simply SOLD them to the South, hence the saying "sold down the river". The North's need for slaves in factories died off with industrialization, thereby instituting their moral righteousness we see in history.

So, how is the land to be divided in the North where the slaves worked in factories and shops and not on open fields of farming.

Also, the War for Southern Indepenece wasn't fought to free the slaves.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67354 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:13 pm to
Nope. Most received nothing. The 40 acres and a mule was a hollow promise.

BTW, it wasn’t just slavery. After emancipation they were segregated and shut out of meaningful opportunity for over a century. That’s reality.
Posted by wartiger2004
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:16 pm to
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Wakanda


Fictional country created by a WHITE guy.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:17 pm to
None of my direct ancestors were here pre-Civil war and earliest from either my father or mother’s side arrive pre WWI but late 1800’s

None ever owned a single slave but some on my father’s side were indentured servants In the Caribbean
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 12:19 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:19 pm to
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What should have happened was slaveowner land should have been taken and divided among the slaves after the civil war.
The antebellum Constitution be damned? As a general principle it was considered, partially implemented, then overturned. The war combined with reconstruction was fairly onerous or opportunistically generous (depending on perspective) as it was. Relocation to Liberia was also in the offing. About 15000 freed slaves took up the offer. The rest chose to stay.
Posted by Bren
Member since Jun 2017
48 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:19 pm to
We inherited our land which my in-laws purchased over 70 years ago and have paid taxes on it for nearly 40 years. Our 7 year old black neighbor told my SIL that we did not pay for our land and did not deserve to live on it. His uncle that owns the trailer they live in is going to take all of our land, our houses and the buildings on our
property because it should belong to them.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67354 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:21 pm to
Shocker. A 7 year old says something dumb.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19246 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:40 pm to
Why just black Americans. Are you one of those people that only think black people were slaves?

12mm slaves were exported from Africa and only 400K ended up in the USA. The USA abolished slavery before much of the world.

US slavery was no better or worse than all other forms of slavery so if it should be repared in the USA then it should be repared all over the world, right?
Posted by Gavin Elster
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:51 pm to
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They should receive land.




Yep. 40 acres per slave / ancestry. 1 child? 40 acres. 2 children? 20 acres each. 80 great great grand children? .5 acre each. Dispersed out of vast federal lands. They could then sell the land to another private citizen. There's a great way to privitize federal land.
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