re: I see some conservative are having issues accepting environment issues

If we had put Environmentalists in their place decades ago, we most likely would have had enough Nuclear and less climate change.

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We fish.. etc. We know the value of catch and release of smaller fish.

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I keep smaller, "eating size" fish for table fare and let the giants go. I release 30+ pound catfish every year. Want them to be bigger the next time I catch them.

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I was taught to respect what God gave us.

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Damn right. All our spots down on the river always get trashed out by people who don't respect anything and discard their beer empties, food packages and even dirty diapers all over the spots. We always bring along a couple trash bags to clean up the shite other people are too lazy and worthless to bother with. Dad always taught me "leave it cleaner than you found it".

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We aren't talking about shutting down industries because the world will burn next week if we don't do it. We are talking common sense things.

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From a conservative standpoint, it's federal regulations that need dialed back. Particularly in the fossil fuel industry, they're among the most heavily regulated of industries on earth and they already overregulate themselves. They're constantly advancing production methods and sciences to get even more use from each barrel of crude. They're constantly finding new refining methods to increase efficiency of their product while decreasing the carbon footprint it leaves behind. Combine that with the auto industry's advances in fuel economy across the board, and you have exactly what you stated above... "common sense".

Now again on the conservative perspective, your more liberal entities that light themselves on fire about "we need to do more and more" about the environment, are the same entities that not only refuse to condemn China and India for causing more global pollution than all other countries combined, but go as far as to actually praise China and India for only increasing their carbon footprint by 27% last year when the estimated increase was 29%. "So let's invest even more money in them even though they're increasing pollution while we've actually decreased our pollution by 3% during the same timeframe!"

The hypocrisy of it should burn everyone to their core.

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OP's first post infers that conservatives have issues accepting environmental issues, not based on fact,

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That's not what I said. I stated that rightfully so, we should not act on anything other than facts with common sense. I stated man made global warming is not a thing. There are not facts to that.

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but based on the perception that they are marxist democrat issues. I don't believe that to be the case.

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There was a thread on here today on chemtrails.

I do not think I have seen you post before. But this one is a great post.

I do not know if people realize that there is a reason why we have so many people mentally ill.

No real conservative wants little kids given blocker to change them, yet.... here we are with plastic headed to the nut sack that does what?

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Regarding energy, until China and India agree to change course, any country participating in anything environmental is doing it for show. It’s stupid at best.

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I get it. And I agree with with the issue of China and India.

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That's not what I said. I stated that rightfully so, we should not act on anything other than facts with common sense. I stated man made global warming is not a thing. There are not facts to that.

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There are other things however that we refuse to get behind for the fear of it being a dem cause. That should never be the case. Facts and facts alone should guide what we do.

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How is that not exactly what you said? Above is your words. What exactly are those "other things" that "we" refuse to get behind for fear of it being a dem cause?

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There was a thread on here today on chemtrails.

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Is that it? Chemtrails?

This and RFK's FDA/big Pharma type populism make decent sense in the right's increasing embrace of "social good" instead of free markets above anything else.

BUT, the problem I see with it is the embrace of some amorphous, secular "common good conservative populism" which is going to be far more subject to shifts and abuse. And it's definitely going to be like that if we're making the movement broad enough to include RFK and Tulsi

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No. We should be responsible enough to live in as clean an environment as we can. That clean environment is for us. This is our home we are talking about.

Let India and China poison themselves.

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Weird how only select people have responsibility to care for the environment.

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doing things to try to slow global warming

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I was agreeing until this. This is the democrat's dog whistle. I agree about litter and plastic in our waterways and what Dupont did with teflon and how 99.9% of all people on earth have it in their blood is criminal. Seperate the two issues.