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re: I really don't understand why Trump is at odds with Massie.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:04 am to jrodLSUke
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:04 am to jrodLSUke
quote:Good Lord some of you are broken
Besides, anyone paying attention can see that Massie is completely against everything MAGA, against anything that would be a win for Trump, and is doing everything in his power to divide the GOP.
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:16 am to AlterEd
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Massie certainly is a career politician.
He actually had a successful business career before politics. He ain’t a Pelosi/McCarthy/Gaetz type by a long shot.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:19 am to ragincajun03
Yeah, that's true. But what I'm saying is that he's been in there for 15 years vs Trump's 5. How much of what he does in there actually accomplishes anything? It isn't enough to pay lip service to ideals. Your job is to deliver for your constituents.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:23 am to Iron Lion
Massie would have had more credibility had he played team ball either BBB, then threw one of his fits over the upcoming spending projects Thune and boys will release in September. But he’d rather grandstand
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:24 am to GumboPot
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I really don't understand why Trump is at odds with Massie.
Trump cares about results, and Massie doesn't deliver. It's as simple as that.
In more detail, Massie, like all TDS conservatives, fails to see the big picture. Trump is juggling 100 different pieces to implement his agenda. Massie is focused on one or two things, and his actions constantly obstruct Trump's grander plan.
Massie refuses to work with his own party to accomplish anything but will work with democrats.
Did you already forget how Massie was wrong on tariffs and Iran? Anyone saying Massie supports Trump's agenda is fooling himself.
Massie doesn't support Trump’s border security or economic policies. His libertarian side causes him to sell out his country to foreigners. I don't support anyone who puts flawed economic principles over the security and prosperity of his own country.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:27 am to Padme
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By ‘pushing’ do you mean he ‘talks a shitton about these things’ or did he actually ‘do’ something?
Are we talking about Trump or Massie?
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:33 am to Flats
Massie is the one who never gets a F’ing thing done. There is something he can do besides talk and vote, he can lead via turning some of his RINO chums to the right side, of better yet, win a dem over, but he can’t, he just grandstands. The post above yours, read it.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:33 am to GumboPot
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Everything that Trump campaigned on, Massie is trying to work through in the House.
Massie committed the unforgivable sin of publicly disparaging AIPAC. The Miriam Adelson’s of the world are not going to allow that to continue. Guaranteed Trump is taking that phone call and agreeing to whatever request is made.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:35 am to GumboPot
How can you not understand why Trump would be at odds with Massie? Massie is a grandstanding, turncoat who consistently opposes Trump and spread baseless Epstein rumors about Trump.
Anyway, Massie is now toast. This will be his last term in Congress.
Anyway, Massie is now toast. This will be his last term in Congress.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:35 am to Padme
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There is something he can do besides talk and vote, he can lead via turning some of his RINO chums to the right side
So perhaps blame the ones that don't vote the right way, not the one who does
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:39 am to GumboPot
Trump is clearly Israel First
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:43 am to Padme
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Massie is the one who never gets a F’ing thing done.
Here is the post you responded to:
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He's pushing for less spending, less foreign intervention, getting rid of DC waste, etc.:
Ok, let's say Massie has done jack shite on any of those. What has Trump done in those three areas? He's got a helluva lot more power than a single representative. Spending is till growing (and let's be honest, Trump isn't even going to try to throttle spending) and we're still sending arms to Ukraine.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:43 am to AlterEd
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what I'm saying is that he's been in there for 15 years vs Trump's 5
As one of 435 voting U.S. Reps. Someone at the Presidency has much more power to influence things.
That said, I'm not even trying to argue "Trump's done nothing and Massie's fighting", or any shite like that. They've both has positives for the United States in their own capacities.
But to say Massie is "certainly a career politician" just isn't accurate. At least not yet. Let's see how long he stays as just a singular Rep lobbing bombs.
This post was edited on 8/4/25 at 11:45 am
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:46 am to Padme
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Massie is the one who never gets a F’ing thing done.
Go read the bills Massie wrote and tell me you don’t like them. The problem isn’t Massie, it’s other 534 legislators.
Those shite bags will do anything besides pass a decent piece of legislation with nothing in it for them or the donor class.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:47 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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Trump cares about results, and Massie doesn't deliver. It's as simple as that.
When Massie does deliver, it's to help the Democrats and their anti-MAGA allies.
Let's look at the track record:
2019: Massie votes with ALL Democrats to override Trump's veto of a measure declaring a national emergency at the southern border. Repeatedly votes against border wall and border security.
2014: Opposed to awardiing Jack Nicklaus, noted Conservative, a gold medal.
2014-2017: Massie votes in support of Iran, North Korea, Syria, Russia. But votes against naming Israel a strategic partner. Also votes against denouncing antisemitism.
2013: Massie votes against the Stolen Valor Act.
Speaker:
Voted FOR Justin Amash of Michigan, a noted anti-American Palestinian supporter.
Voted FOR McCarty, a noted Never Trumper.
Voted AGAINST Johnson, a noted MAGA supporter.
Voted in favor of Democrat spending under Biden.
2022: Masie quotes neo-Nazi Alfred Strom on Twitter. Big oops from a known Jew hater.
2024: Massie moderates Presidential Debates for Third-Party Candidates in and effort to find a 3rd Party to take votes away from Trump.
The list goes on and on and on.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:51 am to jrodLSUke
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Massie does not support border security, building the wall, deportations, and believes in the Libertarian fantasy of open borders.
You are clueless.
Massie believes in border security and he does not believe in open borders.
There are two different types of libertarians. The type of "liberatarian" that Massie is believes that open borders are an assault on private property.
This post was edited on 8/4/25 at 11:56 am
Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:13 pm to Pecos Pedro
Alleged conservatives on PT: "The Uniparty is real! It is killing this country!"
The very same alleged conservatives on PT: "Primary Massie! He refuses to go along with the Uniparty!"
Do any of you stop to think that he is only 1 of 400+ in the House? This whole, "What has he ever accomplished???!!!" supposed gotcha y'all like to wheel out just exposes your stupidity or hypocrisy. His refusal to play along with the fiscal insanity that permeates DC is somehow grandstanding? I wish we had 220 more grandstanders.
The very same alleged conservatives on PT: "Primary Massie! He refuses to go along with the Uniparty!"
Do any of you stop to think that he is only 1 of 400+ in the House? This whole, "What has he ever accomplished???!!!" supposed gotcha y'all like to wheel out just exposes your stupidity or hypocrisy. His refusal to play along with the fiscal insanity that permeates DC is somehow grandstanding? I wish we had 220 more grandstanders.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:16 pm to FLTech
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I do.. massie is a RINO
This is a new level of retardation even for you.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:17 pm to Pecos Pedro
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If Massie decided to be cooperative towards solving these problems he would probably be treated differently.
Cooperation with AIPAC is all that’s required. Actual RINO’s like that pole smoker Lindsey Graham and Lisa Murkowski would be my gripe. But we’re going to primary Thomas Massie instead. Just as long as they vote to keep sending money and weapons to Israel it’s smooth sailing.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:17 pm to PorkSammich
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Thune and Johnson are the RINO’s but Trump constantly praises them.
I think in 2025, we can now admit that Thune and Jonson are "Republicans" and a Thomas Massie is actually the RINO, now that Republicans are fully onboard with spending like liberals and consistently obstructing conservative efforts.
Trump is something in between. He's nails on the border, gets a B for effort on deportations, but has too much Lindsey Graham/John Cornyn in him.
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