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re: I learned something today about an iconic Vietnam photograph

Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by Redbone
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:56 pm to
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I learned something today about an iconic Vietnam photograph
You are kinda late learning this. I found this out shortly after the picture was released.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31379 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:01 pm to
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What I learned today is that the young man in the photo is Nguyen Van Lem was a Viet Cong soldier who slit the throats of South Vietnamese lieutenant colonel Nguyen Tuan, his wife, their six children, and the officer's 80-year-old mother.



Am I one of the few people that knew the story behind the photo? I thought it was common knowledge.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:21 pm to
For a glimpse of marxist rule read up on what happened in Hue when it was temporarily captured during the Tet offensive. The communists had their kill lists and it was mass murder in Hue as fast as they could get it done. They knew they had only a limited time to kill as many as possible before losing control of Hue. In fact, I believe the photo was taken during the Tet offensive. Bear in mind, those kill lists were carried out across the country during the Tet offensive-not just Hue. Brutal.

Sort of like the Biden regime doing as much damage as fast as they can to America before losing control.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
22899 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 4:04 pm to
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That is an American soldier?

Yes. He's the one who started the "Let's Go Brandon" chants you've been hearing lately.
Posted by Daequalizer
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 4:40 pm to
Hershey Barrrrrrr
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42605 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 5:39 pm to
If Conkrite and his ilk had been around in 1863 Lee would have won at Gettysburg. Their reporting of the Tet Offensive was that bad
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7870 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 6:42 pm to
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I've been lurking/reading here for years, is there a DM function?
pretty sure no

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I'd like to share this picture and info(cut and paste word for word)
you can cut/paste the text and 'SaveAs' the image.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7870 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 6:42 pm to
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I've been lurking/reading here for years, is there a DM function?
pretty sure no

quote:

I'd like to share this picture and info(cut and paste word for word)
you can cut/paste the text and 'SaveAs' the image.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6431 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:42 pm to
A slight hijack to pay respects to some other combat correspondents who invested themselves fully to cover an ugly war and give American troops the fairness and dignity they deserved.
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The night before her death, she had dinner with Lt. Gen. Lewis Walt, Marine Commander in Vietnam, Garofolo said, and “told him that when she dies, she wanted to be on patrol with the Marines.”

She was near the front of a patrol as part of Operation Black Ferret with the 7th Marine Regiment when a Marine ­activated a tripwire. Shrapnel went through Chapelle’s neck and hit her carotid artery.

French Associated Press photographer Henri Huet was there to capture a hallowing image of a Navy chaplain delivering her last rites. Huet was later also killed in Vietnam.


Chapelle died on November 4, 1965. On that day, Gen. Greene sent a ­Marine-wide message, “She was one of us, and we will miss her.”
Dickey Chapelle




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Burrows went on to become a photographer and covered the war in Vietnam from 1962 until his death in 1971. His work is often cited as the most searing and the most consistently excellent photography from the war, and several of his pictures (“Reaching Out,” for example, featuring a wounded Marine desperately trying to comfort a stricken comrade after a fierce 1966 firefight) and photo essays both encompassed and defined the long, polarizing catastrophe in Vietnam.

One of his most famous collections, published first in LIFE Magazine on 16 April 1965, was entitled "One Ride with Yankee Papa 13".


Burrows died with fellow photojournalists Henri Huet, (Who photographed Dixie Chapelle’s last rites) Kent Potter and Keisaburo Shimamoto, when their helicopter was shot down over Laos.

[Burrows (wearing white scarf) helping evacuate wounded on dust offs]


In 2002, Burrows' posthumous book Vietnam was awarded the Prix Nadar award. At the time of the helicopter crash, the photographers were covering Operation Lam Son 719, a massive armoured invasion of Laos by South Vietnamese forces against the Vietnam People's Army and the Pathet Lao.
Larry Burrows





Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15213 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:48 pm to
lmao are we now defending the Vietnam war in here wtf is going on
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
12399 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:55 pm to
Judge jury and executioner
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:57 pm to
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Punishment fit the crime. I'm good with it


That killing may have been legal under the Geneva Conventions at the time. Weren't irregular troops like the VC (who dressed in civilian clothes) subject to summary executions?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38341 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 8:06 pm to
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This photo (which won a Pulitzer) was used by American media to turn the public against Vietnam.
When was that; 68 or 69? America was divided on this war from the get go.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:07 pm to
Plus he killed civilians.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1572 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:23 pm to
Always thought it was cool that the bullet is actually in his head when this pic was taken.

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39841 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:26 pm to
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used by American media to turn the public against Vietnam
The punishment fit the crime, but let's not pretend a misunderstanding of this photo made the war somehow righteous. There was plenty of lying from the various administrations. The entire thing was a disaster.
Posted by Boring
Member since Feb 2019
3792 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:46 pm to
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lmao are we now defending the Vietnam war in here wtf is going on


Three things are happening in this thread:

1) People are clarifying misconceptions (being kind) surrounding a historically important photograph.

2) Others are recognizing and paying respects to their fallen fellow Americans.

3) and then we have you, revealing yourself as a shrimp dick queer.

Nobody is defending, celebrating, or condoning either the Vietnam War or the actions taken by its participants.
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Noahcount
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
15340 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:43 pm to
I didn’t know that
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4233 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 4:35 am to
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n 1975, Loan fled South Vietnam during the Fall of Saigon, eventually emigrating to the United States.[13] Pressure from the U.S. Congress resulted in an investigation by the Library of Congress.[14] In 1978, the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) contended that Loan had committed a war crime.[8] They attempted to deport him, but President Jimmy Carter personally intervened to stop the proceedings, stating that "such historical revisionism was folly".[15][16] Loan died on 14 July 1998 in Burke, Virginia, at the age of 67.[1]



Could you imagine a democrat proclaiming that today?

Now, historical revisionism is the rule rather than the exception.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 4:38 am
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