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re: "I just want Russians and Ukrainians to stop dying" that was a drop mike moment
Posted on 5/11/23 at 9:47 am to redandright
Posted on 5/11/23 at 9:47 am to redandright
Ukraine picked a fight they couldn’t win and are getting assraped over it.
Do you want us to stay WW3 to prop up a kleptocracy which has no hope in hell of winning?
This ain’t Poland and Czechoslovakia in the 30s where countries were treaty bound to protect them.
Do you want us to stay WW3 to prop up a kleptocracy which has no hope in hell of winning?
This ain’t Poland and Czechoslovakia in the 30s where countries were treaty bound to protect them.
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 9:48 am to redandright
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You’re willing to reward Russia for invading a sovereign nation? Because if there’s a ceasefire Russia will solidify its gains, and never withdraw. It will also be emboldened to go back and take the rest of Ukraine. Seems as if the only people allowed to “fight” are Trump and his supporters.
Would you rather a potential world war and further draining of US resources? Resources that we need for our failing economy.
How do you know that we couldn’t negotiate for them to give back some of the territory that they’ve taken if we haven’t even had a chance to come to the table?
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 9:48 am
Posted on 5/11/23 at 9:49 am to redandright
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Remind me who invaded whom?
Don't be obtuse and mellow dramatic at the same time with your uniparty-establishment bullshite.
Biden practically begged Putin to raid Ukraine. The Ukraine money laundering was fully exposed; but the FTX scheme wasn't just democrats.
Victoria Nuland and the republican establishment have worked together for years. Watch the documentary by Oliver Stone-Ukraine on Fire.
JESSE WATTERS: Ties between FTX, Dems and Ukraine need to be investigated
Ukraine Partners With FTX, Everstake to Launch New Crypto Donation Website
FTX is converting crypto contributions to Ukraine’s war effort into fiat for deposit at the National Bank of Ukraine.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 9:57 am to crazy4lsu
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Yeah one party could unilaterally make that happen and it isn't the US or the Ukrainians.
Really? The Ukrainians and Russians were open to peace talks back in February of last year, but BoJo and the Clown in Chief blew it all up. Now the Chinese are stepping in to broker peace, which makes us look like even bigger warmongers. Good job, Biden.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:12 am to teke184
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Ukraine picked a fight they couldn’t win and are getting assraped over it.
Ukraine invaded Russia?
And don’t use the lame NATO excuse.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:14 am to Fun Bunch
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This is a benefit to Trump. His whole shtick is built around "fighting back" and representing that he is being treated unfairly. That's what he lives for, what he lives in. It helps him.
No. What I’m saying is that they will soundbyte him and excerpt him to look like a…..well, you’ve seen it.
Racist
Sexist
Etc
Etc
Etc
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:15 am to FearlessFreep
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who had been disenfranchised by 'their' government in Kyiv when the Maidan 'revolution' overturned the result of a fair election through mob violence (backed by state actors from outside their borders, including the US)
Russian troops are invaders. They invaded Ukraine and propped up these separatists who were Russian puppets. The separatists were armed by the Russians.
Actors outside their borders is way different than troops inside their borders.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:15 am to redandright
What is your stance on the Six Days War?
Did Israel start it because they attacked first or did the Arabs start it by massing forces all around Israel at a high state of alert and start saber rattling about how they were going to wipe them off the map?
Did Israel start it because they attacked first or did the Arabs start it by massing forces all around Israel at a high state of alert and start saber rattling about how they were going to wipe them off the map?
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:16 am to teke184
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Did Israel start it because they attacked first or did the Arabs start it by massing forces all around Israel at a high state of alert and start saber rattling about how they were going to wipe them off the map?
I don't think this is the analogy that you think it is. Ukraine wasn't preparing to invade Russia, or even pretending like they were.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:16 am to doubleb
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And a lot of those people getting shelled were Russian soldiers and their separatist allies.
So killing citizens that don't like the country is good? Your terms are acceptable.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:18 am to VoxDawg
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What else would you expect from the first President in multiple generations not to get the US into a new foreign war?
Reagan?
Carter?
Obama?
Trump?
Who are you talking about???
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:19 am to doubleb
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Who are you talking about???
His description only applies to one person in your list, and it is not Reagan, Carter, or Obama.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:20 am to Indefatigable
Ukraine was trying to big dick a larger power on their border because we were in their ear telling them we had their back
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:20 am to Deuces
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Would you rather a potential world war and further draining of US resources? Resources that we need for our failing economy.
How do you know that we couldn’t negotiate for them to give back some of the territory that they’ve taken if we haven’t even had a chance to come to the table?
Amazing that you actually think that Putin would return land he’s stolen. He won’t. He wants to restore the Russian Empire.
It would also be an incredible sign of weakness for him to give up anything-the long knives in the Kremlin would be out for him.
The only way you Putinistas change your opinion on Ukraine, is if Trump tells you to.
The exception to this rule will be the sincere isolationists on this Board. But the rest is all because of Trump
You’re just like the new warhawks on the Left. It’s all about Trump and phony Russia Collusion.
Everything revolves around this.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:21 am to teke184
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Ukraine was trying to big dick a larger power on their border because we were in their ear telling them we had their back
This is delusion. Ukraine was not threatening the Russian Federation in any form.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:21 am to teke184
I don’t know enough about the Six Days War to give an informed opinion.
Is it allowed to say that on this Board?
Is it allowed to say that on this Board?
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:22 am to Gusoline
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So killing citizens that don't like the country is good? Your terms are acceptable.
No it’s never good to kill, but if you are invaded you have to fight back even if civilians are put in harms way.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:23 am to Indefatigable
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His description only applies to one person in your list, and it is not Reagan, Carter, or Obama.
I don’t recall those presidents starting a war.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:24 am to Gusoline
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So killing citizens that don't like the country is good? Your terms are acceptable.
So if a foreign country inserts its own citizens into your country in an attempt to colonize it (no I’m not talking about the Border), the invaded country shouldn’t try to forcibly remove them?
Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:11 am to doubleb
quote:when exactly did the separatists become separatists?
Russian troops are invaders. They invaded Ukraine and propped up these separatists who were Russian puppets
could it have been because the man they overwhelmingly supported as President of their country (I'm referring to Ukraine) was deposed by by EU/US puppets?
think of it this way - if Jan 6 had really been the violent insurrection it is being claimed to be, and had actually succeeded in negating the results of the 2020 election and returning Trump to the Presidency, would you expect the residents of California to just shrug their shoulders and accept it?
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 11:12 am
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