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re: I just don't understand why in the 50s and 60s these shootings were extremely rare.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:11 pm to MastrShake
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:11 pm to MastrShake
Anders Behring says hello.
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:18 pm to NC_Tigah
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America was 90% Caucasian/Christian
Are those not characteristics of most school shooters?
Stastiscally, most of all crimes should be performed by whites since they by far make up the largest percentage of the population. Mass shootings and serial killing used to be a white thing. But now with this shooting, Orlando shooting, San Bernardino, etc. other groups are getting involved too.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:19 pm to crazy4lsu
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Why is the total crime rate lower now than it was in 1967, despite an increase in population from 200 million to 320 million people?
Reductions to race don't stand up to scrutiny. When this country was extremely white, the homicide rate was still higher than most developed nations. The homicide rate since 2010 has been lower than it was in 1960, with the exception of 2016.
apparently my sarcasm wasn't strong enough
ah well....
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:20 pm to KrushGroove
God damnit. I'm just too pedantic to ever pick up on the sarcasm.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:20 pm to Wtxtiger
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social justice instead of traditional morals and Christian values.
Social Justice are Christian values. Taking care of the poor and ensuring that everyone has the same opportunities as others are Christian values. Social justice issues are putting Christian values into operation. The biggest mistake the Left has made has been taking out Christianity in pursuing the social justice agenda.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:21 pm to MastrShake
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the majority of Norway is atheist
Its 85% Christian baw
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:21 pm to Loserman
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40% of our population increase since 1950 is due to immigration
Haven't you been reading? Crime rates and murder rates are down.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:22 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Taking care of the poor and ensuring that everyone has the same opportunities as others are Christian values.
Through individual and community effort. Not by government fiat and redistribution of wealth.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:23 pm to crazy4lsu
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God damnit. I'm just too pedantic to ever pick up on the sarcasm.
the reality is that I've studied the intersection of criminality and ethnicity and class and education for years and worked in the sector as well, and I generally applaud the efforts of the sincere.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:23 pm to Centinel
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Through individual and community effort. Not by government fiat and redistribution of wealth.
Christians shouldn't care how it is done. If it is done via government and guided by Christian values that is good.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:24 pm to Centinel
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Through individual and community effort. Not by government fiat and redistribution of wealth.
which is why I think we should do away with insurance and just put jars on convenience store counters with pictures of kids needing procedures
that should be more than enough to cover it
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:24 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
I want to blame Heavy Metal music and satanic influences in Heavy Metal music. It's just as valid as blaming social media and the 24 hour news cycle.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:36 pm to Centinel
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Through individual and community effort. Not by government fiat and redistribution of wealth.
In order for there to be individual and community effort, first we have to diagnose what is going on. In my view part of what we are experience is what is called cultural lag, in which a society cannot keep up with the rate of technological progress. This culture lag has caused issues with socialization, isolation and has deteriorated community bonds. The anomie that has been created creates fragmented social identities, essentially making a lost generation, of which I think we've only begun to suffer the repercussions of. In relation to mass shootings, we often see shooters who identify with odd groups, or who don't have a clear pattern of identity at all.
This seems to be a uniquely American problem as well. Other nations do have mass shootings, but not at the rate that we seem to. Efforts to decentralize mental health services had the effect of limiting access to mental health to those most at risk. In this milieu, it is difficult to envision a solution that doesn't in some part require government policy and intervention. The cultural lag will continue in my view for another decade or so, if there are no major advancements on the level of the cellphone, which combined with social media, makes people feel connected and isolated all at once.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:38 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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I want to blame Heavy Metal music and satanic influences in Heavy Metal music. It's just as valid as blaming social media and the 24 hour news cycle.
Heavy metal music and satanic influence get your name out to the entire country in about fifteen minutes?
(and I'm being rather conservative with the fifteen minutes)
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:43 pm to Numberwang
So can you make a definitive causal connection between the rise of feminism and / or the decrease of the Caucasian percentage of the population and the rise of mass shootings?
That is quite a leap to make without any evidence.
That is quite a leap to make without any evidence.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:57 pm to Numberwang
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Back when divorce was rare, and feminism hadn't destroyed marriage.
America was 90% Caucasian/Christian.
The Left tells me all of the above conditions were "the bad old days" yet we didn't create mass-murdering spree-killers by the dozens every year.
Kids could play in their neighborhoods without constant supervision because the society was so high-trust and people were so decent.
What happened?
Crime was rampant then, you just didn't hear about it. And nearly 30% of adult men were alcoholics in the 50s.
Oh, and this country has never at any point been 90% white.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:58 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Crime was rampant then, you just didn't hear about it. And nearly 30% of adult men were alcoholics in the 50s.
it was hell being a wife back then, but for some reason these folks don't really care about that
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:03 pm to KrushGroove
Familial abuse was rampant in the 40s and 50s, all those GIs cane back home and turned to the bottle to cope with the trauma of war. There was no PTSD diagnosis yet and psychiatry was in its relative infancy.
Spousal/child abuse and suicide were much bigger problems than they are today but again, you didn't hear about it. Those were very hush hush topics.
Spousal/child abuse and suicide were much bigger problems than they are today but again, you didn't hear about it. Those were very hush hush topics.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:16 pm to Numberwang
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Back when divorce was rare, and feminism hadn't destroyed marriage. America was 90% Caucasian/Christian. The Left tells me all of the above conditions were "the bad old days" yet we didn't create mass-murdering spree-killers by the dozens every year. Kids could play in their neighborhoods without constant supervision because the society was so high-trust and people were so decent. What happened?
Cultural rot, for various reasons. Liberal/Marxist victimhood hegemony. Social Media Narcissism and violent Computer Games. Perfect storm.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:27 pm to tigersbh
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We kicked God out of society, now we reap what we sow.
Not only did we remove the notion of a higher moral authority from the public sphere, we also diminished the concept of the sanctity of life and destroy the historical norms of family and behavior.
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