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re: I draw the line with Trump at amnesty

Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by Hades
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
204 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:17 pm to
I can’t wait to watch the civil war in the GOP when Trump betrays them and both sides are calling each other cucks.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64491 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:19 pm to
If he gives the dems what they want BEFORE getting what he wants, then its a colossal failure for Trump. If he gives them full amnesty, thats also a colossal failure for Trump.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:26 pm to
Well, as long as it's written that ANY criminal record makes you ineligible, I think I could live with it if it gets the wall done.
I would think those guys would vote for him after he would give them something they thought they would never recieve...true freedom. Why would they vote den after that?
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:35 pm to
Why did we vote for Trump anyway - Ann Coulter
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21544 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:36 pm to
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I would think those guys would vote for him after he would give them something they thought they would never recieve...true freedom. Why would they vote den after that


I dunno, why did they vote for Dems after Reagan gave them amnesty? shite, why do blacks vote 95% dem when it was Republicans that forced the passage of the Civil Rights Act? It was Dems manning the water cannons and the dogs.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10805 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:41 pm to
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am very pro Trump but if he gives 1.3 million illegals full citizenship I will be out.


You will be with her?
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:44 pm to
You never heard of Barry Goldwater and his speeches against the CRA? The Repubs did not support the CRA.

Repubs and Southern Democrats voted against it.
Posted by Megasaurus
Member since Dec 2017
1654 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:32 pm to
relax.. this is classic trump shite stirring, gives the left something to stew over for a couple days and next thing you know we"ll be reading about another win under the radar like the recent tariffs on imported solar panels and washing machines, the left and msm are too busy chasing the ball he throws down the street to see whats really going on.
Posted by tigercreole
United States of Russia
Member since Jul 2013
3294 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:07 am to
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I do not want my voice and my vote silenced by those who came here illegally have have no legal standing to decide the direction of this country.

Euros are the original illegal immigrants. These people are returning to their original home. It's like a burglar coming into your home. Takes it over. Then call the cops on you for trespassing.

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I’ve said it a dozen times here and I’ll say it again, it’s ballgame if millions of illegals are granted citizenship,

The root of racism: fear and insecurity.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14090 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:13 am to
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The Dems wanted 800k, Trump doubled that to 1.8 million with a 10 year pathway to citizenship. Exactly what intergalactic chess is he playing?


Obama6.1
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:20 am to
It is early on in this. We'll have to see where it goes.

Sebastian Gorka says citizenship isn't going to happen.

Time will tell.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:25 am to
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I’m generally onboard, but if he chooses to push forward with amnesty of any sort, he will not have my support. I do not want my voice and my vote silenced by those who came here illegally have have no legal standing to decide the direction of this country. I’ve said it a dozen times here and I’ll say it again, it’s ballgame if millions of illegals are granted citizenship, and don’t be fooled into believe it will stop at 1.8 million people.



He has earned my support, but this would throw it away. He was elected on his signature issue, immigration. Adding tens of thousands of Dem votes to swing states isn't 5D chess.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38517 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:34 am to
frick amnesty and citizenship. Throw their asses in the Rio Grande and make them swim back.

If Trump let's the stay he will face all hell. If Trump gives them a shot at citizenship, he can go frick himself. If Trump gives path to citizenship AND a wall "trust fund," I'm done.

Trump has to get this right.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64491 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:39 am to
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Euros are the original illegal immigrants. These people are returning to their original home. It's like a burglar coming into your home. Takes it over. Then call the cops on you for trespassing.


Yeah, completely excluding any and all context and you're absolutely right.


Oh and btw, there wasn't even a country when these "original illegal immigrants" from Europe came over as you say. If there was no country, then there were no laws, if there were no laws, what was illegal about their presence then?

There was no such thing as legal standing when they first came. So thats an absolutely stupid thing to say.



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The root of racism: fear and insecurity.






Oh look, another liberal argument rooted in emotion and feelings. Do you have any logical arguments to make with regard to that statement? You attributing emotions you can't see or feel to someone you can't see or know is not an argument at all.
Posted by Terry the Tiger
Cypress, Texas
Member since Jul 2009
3494 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:03 am to
quote:

If you don't know any Hispanics or understand this hard working culture then you need to check yourself


I lived 9 miles from the Mexican border in South Texas. I get so sick and tired of the "hard working culture" crap. Granted many are hardworking in that they are unskilled and have to do manual labor for a living. Those are the ones that are portrayed on TV and by politicians. And many of those hard workers are actually here working legally.

The truth is far from that. Second generation hispanic immigrants are statistically very lazy. A large percentage of the hispanics are not hard working at all. They are drug dealers and users, gang bangers, high school dropouts, teen mothers, etc.

I would go to clubs in the RGV and men where wearing work uniforms to the club. When I asked them why, they told me that the POWs (Puntas on Welfare) loved a man that they new had a job.

I really think most of the Hispanics that I know are really good people, but the narrative goes a little far. There is a reason that they do jobs that Americans won't do (at that pay rate), because they will work for so little.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:09 am to
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If you don't know any Hispanics or understand this hard working culture then you need to check yourself



Yeah, they've done a great job, working hard to create a shithole of their homeland. They're working hard to make the US a shithole too.
Posted by Johnny B Goode
Fort Campbell, KY
Member since Jul 2012
2061 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:16 am to
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The Dems wanted 800k, Trump doubled that to 1.8 million with a 10 year pathway to citizenship.


the way I understood it was that there is approx 800k enrolled in DACA right now. The other million is for those who may qualify to enroll.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:22 am to
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From what I’ve read, amnesty, not citizenship would be granted. They won’t be able to vote.


I'm down with this, but frick citizenship.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:22 am to
quote:

From what I’ve read, amnesty, not citizenship would be granted. They won’t be able to vote.


I'm down with this, but frick citizenship.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 4:21 am to
Listen to Shapiro on this - you aren’t going to deport these DACA kids. The trick is to not let this happen again. Trump is still MORE CONSERVATIVE than Reagan, Bush, Clinton, or Bush on addressing the root issue - stopping more illegals from coming here.
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