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I draw the line with Trump at amnesty

Posted on 1/25/18 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 8:52 pm
I’m generally onboard, but if he chooses to push forward with amnesty of any sort, he will not have my support. I do not want my voice and my vote silenced by those who came here illegally have have no legal standing to decide the direction of this country. I’ve said it a dozen times here and I’ll say it again, it’s ballgame if millions of illegals are granted citizenship, and don’t be fooled into believe it will stop at 1.8 million people.
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 8:59 pm to
I am very pro Trump but if he gives 1.3 million illegals full citizenship I will be out.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 8:59 pm to
Calm down. This was a major platform for Trump. Very doubtful he follows through with what is being reported.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52557 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:01 pm to
You guys claim to be ardent Trump supporters, but STILL haven't figured out the way he works.


He's negotiating, and we get to see it in real time.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56549 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:01 pm to
He will give the amnesty after the wall is built.

That's pretty dang good deal if you ask me

a long term solution is done first

short term issue is then fixed as well

People are going to have to be reasonable about dreamers

If you don't know any Hispanics or understand this hard working culture then you need to check yourself
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:03 pm to
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He will give the amnesty after the wall is built.


Based on what? A source of senior WH officials?
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 9:04 pm
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17960 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:04 pm to
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I do not want my voice and my vote silenced by those who came here illegally have have no legal standing to decide the direction of this country. I’ve said it a dozen times here and I’ll say it again, it’s ballgame if millions of illegals are granted citizenship


From what I’ve read, amnesty, not citizenship would be granted. They won’t be able to vote.

Plug the hole in the dam and let the water that’s already come through dry up.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21446 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:04 pm to
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Calm down. This was a major platform for Trump. Very doubtful he follows through with what is being reported.


Are you serious? Those numbers are his administration’s proposal. Steven Miller rolled it out today. 1.8 million with a pathway to citizenship is his starting point.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97946 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:05 pm to
Art of the deal

Trump has the left melting cause it cuts legal immigration (so they say)

Unreal
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21446 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

You guys claim to be ardent Trump supporters, but STILL haven't figured out the way he works.


He's negotiating, and we get to see it in real time


The Dems wanted 800k, Trump doubled that to 1.8 million with a 10 year pathway to citizenship. Exactly what intergalactic chess is he playing?
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71878 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:06 pm to
citizenship is the game.
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6144 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:07 pm to
I understand the sentiment, but if we can end visa lotteries, end chain migration, & a wall, I think its a ptetty fair exchange.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

He will give the amnesty after the wall is built.


When do you think the wall will be finished? By the end of the year?
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:08 pm to
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I am very pro Trump but if he gives 1.3 million illegals full citizenship I will be out.


Dear lord. How fast they lose faith.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12328 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

I’m generally onboard

No you’re not
Posted by Jyrdis
TD Premium Member Level III
Member since Aug 2015
13509 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:08 pm to
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Are you serious?


Yes.

quote:

Those numbers are his administration’s proposal. Steven Miller rolled it out today. 1.8 million with a pathway to citizenship is his starting point.


Don't care. Within 2 weeks we will see this negotiated like everything else we have seen. To me, it's more a ploy to lure Dems back into talks. We've seen stunts like Thule time and again. Dems, for whatever reason, haven't caught onto it.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56549 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:09 pm to
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When do you think the wall will be finished? By the end of the year?



didn't they say it would take about 3 years?

don't remember, but it's a bunch of wall
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:10 pm to
There are 12 million illegal aliens in the united states. Deport them all, get a wall built, change lottery system to Merritt system, and get rid of violent ms13 and ultimately change NAFTA.

Immigration reform controls the flow of people. (service)

Nafta controls the flow of commerce (products). Both of these is what it takes to make wealth.


Trump is willing to give up 800,000 or 1.2 million anchor babies to get these results.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52557 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

The Dems wanted 800k, Trump doubled that to 1.8 million with a 10 year pathway to citizenship.



Show me where that was signed into law.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21446 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

i understand the sentiment, but if we can end visa lotteries, end chain migration, & a wall, I think its a ptetty fair exchange.


Are you guys even old enough to remember the Reagan amnesty? You’re getting sucked in the same way he did. In case you are unfamiliar, Reagan granted amnesty to illegals in 1986 in exchange for border security and other consessions. You know what happened? Illegals got there amnesty and Dems never followed through on their end. It literally flipped California (a repub stronghold for 40 years) to the Dems permanently in less than a decade. Once amnesty is given, none of that other shite will ever happen. There will be no end to chain migration, no wall, nothing. The only thing that will happen is a minimum of 5 states will flip permanently to the Dems. The repubs will never win another federal election. They will never control the house or senate again. We are fricked.
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