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re: I draw the line with Trump at amnesty

Posted on 1/26/18 at 4:23 am to
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 4:23 am to
Congrats, you are jumping through the hoop the media held up for you!
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 4:29 am to
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The Dems wanted 800k, Trump doubled that to 1.8 million with a 10 year pathway to citizenship. Exactly what intergalactic chess is he playing?




False Dems want 3.6 million which is how many "Dreamers" there are.

DACA recipients are a subset of the Dreamers. If you notice Dems always talk about Dreamers and virtually never about DACA recipients.

Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:12 am to
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Listen to Shapiro on this - you aren’t going to deport these DACA kids. The trick is to not let this happen again. Trump is still MORE CONSERVATIVE than Reagan, Bush, Clinton, or Bush on addressing the root issue - stopping more illegals from coming here.





This will be his "no new taxes" moment, and the Dems will ride the Rep apathy to both houses of congress next year and the White House in 2020 just like they did when Papa Bush broke his promise.

No one will switch sides, they just wont get out and vote
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6413 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:08 am to
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take about 3 years?


Considering it would have to go through private land in many places It could get tied up in court for many years
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:25 am to
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amnesty

I have a real hard-on about this too BUT it is physically and fiscally impossible to deport all of the illegals from Mexico/central America. No matter how you slice it, you just can't do it.

At this point we need to build the wall, vet every illegal and throw back the bad ones (regardless of where they're from) and just move on.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:36 am to
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dunno, why did they vote for Dems after Reagan gave them amnesty? shite, why do blacks vote 95% dem when it was Republicans that forced the passage of the Civil Rights Act? It was Dems manning the water cannons and the dogs.



Because there were lingering issues with illegals, and dems used it. But if the wall goes up, most of the illegals issue goes away, so it takes firewood away from dems who used it emotionally to get the Hispanic vote.
Remember, most Hispanics are Christians, mostly Catholics.
Once all the illegals are felt with...they will be more open to all issues and my guess would be they won't sympathize as much against Trump and repubs....all of a sudden, they will feel special and oart of the silutiin
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7915 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:56 am to
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I am very pro Trump but if he gives 1.3 million illegals full citizenship I will be out.


Show me where the brown people touched you on this doll.

Are you that afraid of brown people the 1.3 million more will make that big of a difference? Hmm I wonder what you will be "outraged" about tomorrow.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54698 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:57 am to
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am very pro Trump but if he gives 1.3 million illegals full citizenship I will be out.



This

Unless amnesty for them means never voting and no government benefits
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:57 am to
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brown people

On no you found us out

Get some new fricking material
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:58 am to
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I have a real hard-on about this too BUT it is physically and fiscally impossible to deport all of the illegals from Mexico/central America. No matter how you slice it, you just can't do it.


Bull shite, you just start now and continue till it is finished.

If Trump does this he is finished, his mandate will be gone and both parties will take turns cramming stuff down his throat. The only thing that has kept the Rep. in tow is the threat of Trump nation voting their arse out and he loses that the instant he agrees to any form of amnesty.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:01 am to
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Unless amnesty for them means never voting and no government benefits



Like that cant be changed by the next man in office, which will be a Dem with a Dem congress if he does this.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:11 am to
What done is done, give those kids/adults, who've been used as a political football, by both parties for 20 + years, a path to citizenship. Then build a wall with better security, that simple! That is compromise and takes care of a problem, what's so bad about this? No one gets everything they want in a democracy, and no one should get everything they want, with so many folks competing for different wants.


Path to citizenship and build a wall with great security, so we're not dealing with another set of DACA folks in 20-30 years, this is the smart and humane thing to do. Then after the wall gets built, and a new Immigration Bill gets signed, anyone caught within the USA illegally gets sent back from that date forth.



MAGA
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 8:13 am
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7915 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:24 am to
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Get some new fricking material


Oh please pot meet kettle there

Every 4th thread on the board is about MUH immigrants.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 8:25 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:27 am to
shite you act like white people give a shite about the color of someone......guess what? Most DGAF. It's not someone's color.....IT'S THEIR LEGAL STATUS! Either they are or they aren't.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7915 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:28 am to
quote:

What done is done, give those kids/adults, who've been used as a political football, by both parties for 20 + years, a path to citizenship. Then build a wall with better security, that simple! That is compromise and takes care of a problem, what's so bad about this? No one gets everything they want in a democracy, and no one should get everything they want, with so many folks competing for different wants.

Path to citizenship and build a wall with great security, so we're not dealing with another set of DACA folks in 20-30 years, this is the smart and humane thing to do. Then after the wall gets built, and a new Immigration Bill gets signed, anyone caught within the USA illegally gets sent back from that date forth.


Holy shite a Trumpkin with sense and reason? GTF outta here
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23929 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:30 am to
Some of you need to understand the difference between DACA folks that came in under Obama and his bullshite and illegals that crossed swam or walked across the border.

Seriously.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:36 am to
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Are you guys even old enough to remember the Reagan amnesty? You’re getting sucked in the same way he did. In case you are unfamiliar, Reagan granted amnesty to illegals in 1986 in exchange for border security and other consessions. You know what happened? Illegals got there amnesty and Dems never followed through on their end. It literally flipped California (a repub stronghold for 40 years) to the Dems permanently in less than a decade. Once amnesty is given, none of that other shite will ever happen. There will be no end to chain migration, no wall, nothing. The only thing that will happen is a minimum of 5 states will flip permanently to the Dems. The repubs will never win another federal election. They will never control the house or senate again. We are fricked.


Reagan said it was his biggest mistake
Posted by TigerGhazi
Member since Jan 2018
44 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:40 am to
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He's negotiating, and we get to see it in real time.





I guarantee you democrats never thought they’d get an offer of a pathway to citizenship from Trump. This offer kills big fear mongering point for Republicans in 2018 and 2020.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:44 am to
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No one gets everything they want in a democracy,


Please tell me how the illegals are not getting everything they want?

They wanted to sneak in, hide out, and wait for yet another "reform", bingo they 100% are getting it.

By the way they got the same thing they wanted in 7 previous "last time we pinky promise" times amnesty was granted.

Each and every time the same tired shite about increased security and border control combined with reform is promised and it never happens.

If we do not take a hard line it never stops.

Tommorrow at dawn the busses need to start rolling and at the same time speed up the proccess of all in the pipeline that are trying by legal means to enter.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:55 am to
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